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2 times this week watching a game live then afterwards the opposition as been awarded an extra goal out of nowhere.
1st time 'won' the game 1-0. go out of Live Match at FT to see it recorded as 1-1.
ouch.
2nd time today .
Drawing 2-2 they score last minute goal so I lose 3-2. Come out to find the score recorded as 4-2.
Awful Awful Awful.
This has happened lots of times and can be attributed to a server issue where the final result has had to be simulated. Either that or you had a temporary drop-out of your internet connection. It is quite common but unlucky for you to happen twice in such a short space of time.
KFC Loella
Level 40
20 League Titles
6 Champions League
2 Cups
this has happend before but usually the game crashes and when you come back the result is different, this time i actually watched the whole thing and this was a very important match which made it even more annoying.
happend to me twice in the last two matches, lost the cup and the lead in the league as a result, usually it comes with a crash to the game or whatever, but makes you wonder is it really worth the effort!! or these are just some random results that in the long run you have no control whatsoever.(won the cup match 2-1, but when i checked back it was 2-2)
The match engine doesn't appear to like you :)
Hey Feros :)
Unfortunately what you experienced is a connection issue. Such situations depend on your internet provider and whether or not you are using WiFi, 3G or are playing via the web/Facebook version and connected to the routher with a cable.
Sometimes your internet connection can become unstable for just a part of the second and this will result in the game desyncing with the local game-client. This may bring a fault to the simulation data and the server resets the simulation, which can bring a different result. That's why you saw one result at the end of the match, but afterwards it showed a different one.
excuse but is not connection issue but update's fault. I experience this fault too today. And every time after an update.
I have a very stable internet connection.
I also made a sub( one Aml) and after while he appears as Dr.
Indeed this is not a connection issue from end user's side.
We get out of synch with servers but this seems to be a network issue in server side.
It seems that although connection is stable we stop receiving some data.
This could be just the game stats.
If you tap out of the game and tap again in the game stats are retrieved, so definetely not a connection problem.
i think i mentioned it happening before, and it was ok, usually you can tell there is connection error and it happens once maybe every 5 6 season, but this is happening very often and not just me, i just happend to have the screen shot from the result at 90'. but idont think its just connection.Quote:
Originally Posted by Voldara
threads merged as talking about the same problem
"hidden" connection lost
Indeed, it's possible for situations like this to occur right after a major update. Especially when the update brings a new feature(s) to the game. With all games out there, the implementation of new updates always holds some risk. Systems may misbehave, servers could be rocked by instability issues or generally just act up, etc. The devs are here around the clock when ever we release a major update to Top 11 as, clearly, not everything in the game can be tested out internally and show any possible cracks with the same rigorous beating as when millions of players get their hands on it.
We try to catch everything before we release the updates but it's nigh impossible to foretell every single scenario. :(
It seems that our servers have become slightly unstable recently and thus people are getting disconnected. Some times its the internet fluctuating, and the two different situations can be easily mixed up.
Whether or not it is on our side, make sure you report such instances to the support team, as they need to be informed of such cases.
I am sorry, but the problem is not in the internet connection. The problem is that Nordeus programmers can't make proper synchronization. There're several problems linked to this issue: sometimes I have my statistics empty until the very end of match. If I play on my phone and watch my own game on my PC (same connection!), in the second half the game on the phone always lags behind for a couple of in-game minutes. And, of course, we have phantom goals.Quote:
Originally Posted by Voldara
Don't blame our internet connection, please, this is not an MMORPG with 3d graphics. Good game like this one should work properly even with bad connection.
good one Phantom goals he scored 3 goals in the first 8 minutes (did watch a friendly match)
Teams were same Quality
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End result 1-3
I go into Live Match to make changes as the game plays to improve my team.
It seems that I do this and make a better result.
But the result has already been decided before the game so my 'better' result is ignored for the pre-ordained result.
I can definitely blame an ISP for such issues actually (Bandwidth throttling is a thing after all). And the fact that such issues seem to plague mostly the same users time and time again (Speaking about IRL friends and even some ppl who write to our support team. People who are in the same server as others and still are one of the few to have such issues on a particular server), while others haven't even heard of something like this ever happening, gives a pretty good hint as to the nature of that which causes these desyncs. Namely the Web connection.
I exclusively use my mobile provider's network these days exactly because of such issues. While my home network is good enough for MMOs and online games I still experience some nasty latency spikes even though I'm not getting DCed right off the bat. And I won't even mention what was it like to try and play Top Eleven on that network. On the other hand I have some great Upload / Download speeds.
Damn I even go as far as tethering my laptop to my android sometimes.
Top 11 is definitely a bit sensitive to packet loss and connection timeouts (and a ton of other apps I play), and even though our servers try to compensate, the situation can become unmendable at some point.
That's why we ask that anyone who encounters such issues should write to our support team. Because, yes, it may be due to the ISP as I said, but we recognize that it can be caused by our side. My experience here so far shows mostly otherwise though.
I thought I'd follow the closing sentence of my last reply "...Because, yes, it may be due to the ISP as I said, but we recognize that it can be caused by our side. My experience here so far shows mostly otherwise though." with an explanation of the two scenarios that can lead to you seeing a different result at the end of your match.
Scenario 1
When it's caused by our own servers.
When a server is experiencing technical difficulties of such caliber that the technicians are required to restart it completely in order to implement the fixes they devised, all the simulations (Matches / Fixtures) that have to be ran while the restart is happening, will be done automatically and internally on the affected servers right after the reboot is complete.
In some cases a roll-back might be required (This happens extremely rarely), say an hour in time, all the matches that have been played after the point of return will have to be resimulated. Unfortunately in such cases the results may differ, and some times by a large margin. :(
Scenario 2
When its caused by data transfer between Client and Server - I already explained that this can usually be caused by factors along the whole line. Factors such as ISPs.
Matches are not simulated as one whole. They are done in parts. This way the manager has time between match-events (When the 2D animation fires up) to assess the situation and decide on his/her "next move" strategy wise.
The server sends info about what's going on to your game client (a goal, a yellow card, a chance missed, a corner, an injury, etc.), while your game client updates you of the situation as data is sent to it.
It can happen so that your connection to the game server loses consistency for a second or so, you may not lose connection but your client could miss some of the aforementioned events and you client would never "know" about this.
Example.
You're the Away Team.
The server sends the following events: Home Team goal > Corner > Yellow card for Away Team > Home Team goal > Away Team goal.
This means a 2:1 loss for you.
If your client missed out the 2nd Home Team goal then the result you would see at the end of the match would be a 1:1 draw. But leave the match and check out the match report / Fixture and you'll see the actual result.
Btw, everything that happened after the 2nd goal is absolutely real as well. You continued to observe and play your match with only the event about the 2nd goal taking a hit while being transmitted to your device and you never got the update of the situation.
The usual culprit behind this issue is, more often than not, Scenario 2. But as I said, we can't always know which one it is. So the best course of action is to immediately write to support. :/
Why, when this happens to me is it always between the 70th and 80th minutes...Quote:
Originally Posted by Jeeves
See - https://forum.topeleven.com/bugs-tec...tom-goals.html
I encountered something which definitely falls under scenario 1.I won 7-0 with my star AMR registering 4 goals and 1 assist with a rating of 10.But the game info didn't change afterwards and somehow I couldn't connect after restarting the app.When i finally did reconnect(after a while and a hard reset)i found out i won 5-1 with mu star AMR injured having contributed nothing to the match.I really feel hard done by, cos that 7-0 result would have helped my position in the league and my AMR position on player rankings.Things really should be better than this😏
