Champions League Group Placement

Hello all,

what am I not understanding with me being fourth in my CL group? I have a better goal difference, I have scored more, and the internal GD with the team above me is +1 for me...?

Explain, please!

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It goes on head to head results, same as UEFA CL.

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Originally Posted by dave1311

It goes on head to head results, same as UEFA CL.

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OK, and I won one and lost one and have better GD in our two games? Like I wrote earlier, I can't see how that affects it?

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Originally Posted by msegerstrale

OK, and I won one and lost one and have better GD in our two games? Like I wrote earlier, I can't see how that affects it?

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Can you screenshot your group standings?

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I truly don't think this makes any kind of sense whatsoever.

Check now.
Sometimes the table updates after server reset.
If you are still 4th, write to in-game support.
I doubt anyone on the forum can do anything about this.
You should go to Nivea cup.

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Originally Posted by gamer5289

Check now.
Sometimes the table updates after server reset.
If you are still 4th, write to in-game support.
I doubt anyone on the forum can do anything about this.
You should go to Nivea cup.

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Nope. Wrote in-game support. Really weird. Thanks anyway!

I’m pretty sure it goes like this in CL in the following order:
Tiebreakers
Points in head-to-head matches among tied teams;
Goal difference in head-to-head matches among tied teams;
Goals scored in head-to-head matches among tied teams;
Away goals scored in head-to-head matches among tied teams;
Because you lost 1-4 at home to Pata FC yet only won 2-3 when you played Pata away, the away goals criteria and goals scored applies. That’s why Pata finished above you even though the overall goal difference is one less than yours.

I think it's correct .
It's just that we can't see all the games (the last line is missing from your pic)

Leave all the games vs Dynamo and calculate again.
Read this
https://forum.topeleven.com/top-elev...on-format.html

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Originally Posted by nikolgiorgos

I think it's correct .
It's just that we can't see all the games (the last line is missing from your pic)

Leave all the games vs Dynamo and calculate again.
Read this
https://forum.topeleven.com/top-elev...on-format.html

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The rules:
1. Points (3 teams with 6 points) check
2. Goal Difference (-3, -6, -4) I don't think -6 is higher than -4???
3. Goal scored/GF (9, 5, 8)

Please further explain

read again what I wrote

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Leave all the games vs Dynamo and calculate again.

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we don't know all the game results

Like Niko said - We gotta see what the result of each match of the group stage is.

From there, we calculate the points (and the rest of the stats like GA, GF, etc), only between the teams in conflict - 2nd, 3rd, 4th. The end result will quickly show why each team got its final standing. :)

Worth to note:
Win = 3 Points
Draw = 1 Point
Loss = 0 Points (None added, none taken)

Sorry for being stubborn, sometimes example is better than explanation :)

So here the conclusion:

P 4 2 0 2 9 6 +3 6
T 4 2 0 2 5 5 0 6
S 4 2 0 2 6 7 -1 6

Thats the result for the 3 teams.

So, home and away is not in the rules anymore, right?

Its home and away between 2 teams.
In case of a tie between more than 2 teams, calculate as explained in the above posts.

This is something new I am seeing in the rules.
Also, it would be great if the CL rules (in-game) would be updated to include this.
Currently, it doesnt even say that tie-breaker is head-to-head rather than GD.
No wonder we have so may threads about this in the forum.

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Originally Posted by Pangihutan Manik

Sorry for being stubborn, sometimes example is better than explanation :)

So here the conclusion:

P 4 2 0 2 9 6 +3 6
T 4 2 0 2 5 5 0 6
S 4 2 0 2 6 7 -1 6

Thats the result for the 3 teams.

So, home and away is not in the rules anymore, right?

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Equal points in head to head but you had the worst goal difference in head to head so standings are correct.

Yep, as always, triple draw, means that you should discount in the 3 teams, the points obtained, goals scored and conceded VS the group leader in this case. And the table is correct.

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Originally Posted by msegerstrale

Hello all,

what am I not understanding with me being fourth in my CL group? I have a better goal difference, I have scored more, and the internal GD with the team above me is +1 for me...?

Explain, please!

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Hi, your whole standing screenshot below explains how there was an ex-aequo among 3 teams and not 2 teams.

So,you have to consider results among you and other 2 opponents,excluding matches vs the leader .

So: each of you has 6 points in direct matches ( 2 victories and 2 defeats).

Pata has a +1 score, Tatransky has a 0 score, while you have a -1 score, that's the order for place 2,3 and 4

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Originally Posted by dave1311

I’m pretty sure it goes like this in CL in the following order:
Tiebreakers
Points in head-to-head matches among tied teams;
Goal difference in head-to-head matches among tied teams;
Goals scored in head-to-head matches among tied teams;
Away goals scored in head-to-head matches among tied teams;
Because you lost 1-4 at home to Pata FC yet only won 2-3 when you played Pata away, the away goals criteria and goals scored applies. That’s why Pata finished above you even though the overall goal difference is one less than yours.

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I mean, this guy ask about his team and Tatransky.
Stanly - Tatrinsky 0:1
Tatrinsky - Stanly 0:2
the both team have a 6 points. And there, if a game is a fairl, must put Stanly on 3th position for UEFA.

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Originally Posted by msegerstrale

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If you calculate goal difference in all non-Dynamo games, Pata is +1, Tatransky is even and you’re -1. Sorry for the news.