I think messi is a genius but for me, i like strong powerful players and like ronaldo's showboating. So for me its CR7 :)
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I think messi is a genius but for me, i like strong powerful players and like ronaldo's showboating. So for me its CR7 :)
Ups Ronaldo was the best player in the world (on papers)Quote:
Originally Posted by CarlTaut
Ups Messi is the best player in the world (on papers)
The only things correct on newspapers are the dates....Quote:
Originally Posted by PricopGeorgeCătălin
You really can say that Totti was better then them.Quote:
Originally Posted by CarlTaut
He is my favorite Italian player but he is under Messi or Ronaldo :)
The Totti of now sure... the Totti in his prime don't know. One thing is sure we miss a lot last generation of players... nowadays they're only overpumped big ****s
Messi can't be a big **** :DQuote:
Originally Posted by CarlTaut
Messi is not, but almost all players of today are.....
Its Ronaldo's showboating that makes me hate him so much. Sure, he is a good player, but the sheer arrogance of the man, appals me. Just because he's a better player than his opponent, dosen't mean he should try to make him look stupid with all his pathetic stepovers etc.Quote:
Originally Posted by kmlh666
I don't know what to say, is he's style we should judge him as player not as person.Quote:
Originally Posted by Raykco
Personaly i don t care who is the best player but i not accept messi for the one for me the most important reason and that is that player who want to be consider as the best must prove his quality in more teams, at least at 2 and prove that he is reallye such a good player and not only club make it from him.
When you take the ball from the half, pass 4,5 Real Madrid players and score I think is enough to prove that you are a great player :)Quote:
Originally Posted by unkulunkulu
Of course there had to be one of these threads, its so easy to pit the worlds 2 best players against each other but thats old news really......how about this....what would you give to see these 2 players playing alongside each other in the same team now that is something special and worth hoping for.
Only in FIFA it will be possible.Quote:
Originally Posted by Too Deadly
I find these debates rather entertaining so for once I am going to participate but with a slight different motive than the rest of you. After reading the whole thread it is clear that most of you are in favour of Lionel Messi.
If you're going to be favouring one player over the other you have to base it on their 'individual' preformance. I am sure some of you are willing to agree with me that Lionel Messi's preformance on Argentina the past few years have been subpar compared to how he preforms in Barcelona. Yet Cristiano Ronaldo keeps preforming both in Madrid and in Portugal. So what makes Lionel Messi so much better?
I am not saying I am for one or the other, because they are two completely different players; but I want to hear how you're basing an individual 'competition' between these two players and still say that Lionel Messi is better. (It just seemed that most people that said C. Ronaldo at least had some reason for picking him).
Messi 4 years best, it says all.
I feel a little bit sorry for mister Pomada to graze the football fields at the same time as the best player to have ever put on a pair of football boots. Who can actually not like the little fellow that in all honesty shouldn't be able to play as well as he does because of his quite meager physique. It's like seeing David taking on Goliat once every week and always stand victorious. Mister Pomada is a great player but I just don't like him with his prancing around and he probably waxes his bikini line too and just starts crying as soon as he doesn't get what he wants. Didn't he also buy his child of the childs mother? What a role model.
still Messi is betterQuote:
Originally Posted by johnny token
Won almost all individual records? Something what Ronaldo will never do it...Quote:
Originally Posted by Rawrbin
Whats Ronaldo achievement for Real Madrid? League and CUP :)) so pro..
You're doing it, again. I am talking about THEIR individual preformance. What you're talking about are certain achievements/records he would never be able to do in any other club. (Yes, I actually doubt Messi could preform well in any other club, but Barcelona).Quote:
Originally Posted by PricopGeorgeCătălin
I would like to have seen REAL stars of the past, playing now. Players like Pele, Ferenc Puskas and Stanley Matthews, were true greats, when players had heavy leather footballs (with laces), heavy solid boots (not slippers like today), and used to play on wet, muddy pitches, unlike the capets of today. Bet Ronaldo or Messi wouldn't have been so good then.
Not always, they had great pitches too, their boots was normal and at the start Messi and Ronaldo had same...Quote:
Originally Posted by Raykco
when you want to compare Messi with someone you compare him to Pele or Maradona right?
when you want to compare Ronaldo with someone you compare him to Messi.
there's your answer right there.
Messi..
Messi score`s more, better control and intiligent footbal player. He`s small but can score by head, by foot, and from evrywhere.
Messi broke alot of records, and can be placed in many positions - left, right, striker, midfield. Messi and ronaldo both important for the clubs they playing but it is stupid to say he will not preform this to other team, didnt you see how many english clubs, german clubs he played against and won..? it seems he can, and he preform very good against them. Messi play in the midfield in argentina thats why he cant come out like he do in barcelona but its going better, and portugal with ronaldo is rubish cause they cant even win against isreal come one. Messi is just the best, living legend of all time.! face it ;)
Sorry. I have to disagree. The old style boots were over twice as heavy as they are now, Also, watch some videos of matches pre 1980's, the pitches were more like fields than the state of the art things they are now. And those footballs were extremely heavy once they got wet and covered in mud. All these things had gone from the game, long before Ronaldo and Messi were even born.Quote:
Originally Posted by PricopGeorgeCătălin
I have been watching football for almost 50 years.
Even now you can find worst pitches then before and look at the that from final tournaments like Euro, World Cup, they was perfect.Quote:
Originally Posted by Raykco
About boots, when I was younger I had this old model and is not so hard to play with them but of course is better with this new model.
But now the quality of football is much better then before, there are a lot of skilled players comparing with years 1940-1980.
They are both amazing players, it's such a pleasure to watch them playing.To choose between them it's like choosing between 2 different beer companies, better drink both :)
It's almost the end, Messi have an advantage of 7 goals :) we will see ...
I agree with you :DQuote:
Originally Posted by Otelul Galati83
My two cents worth,
having so much talent with the left foot , with the right, with both, in th air... the foresight to read the game and adjust accordingly, etc is what makes the individual player rise above the rest of the pack. To me there is only one attribute that brings a smile to my face when watching a match... The player/s who pull their team mates... who push their colleagues, who will battle to the final whistle and never say die attitude, not for individual glory, but for the team. For the point.
A few come to mind, but the player who stands out, for me, at club and international level, was Maradonna.
In other words, a leader of men, on the pitch.
Whether Messi or Ronaldo equal or surpass this type of player, I'll make that judgement when they retire and rest their ugly looking feet.
Until then best wishes to them and their accomplishments...all the trophies, medals, awards, etc are only stepping stones to my big picture.
At this stage in Messi and Ronaldo's careers, I think you can guess which one I am leaning towards.
I am late again. CR7 is gr8 as a player but pathetic as a person. Messi, in terms of skills and talent, is in another league altogether. His dribbling ability, ability to go past a whole damn team, control of ball, speed with ball, balance, precision in passes and acceleration make him the winner of the competition by a long margin. So, of course MESSI!!!!
U should have made it as a poll which is never ending, then we would have had better stats!!!!
Ur right!!! Ronaldo is like a bully on the ground. Mainly becoz of his height. He is so often seen going toe-to-toe with someone, proud of the fact that he towers over them. Once he actually met a huge **** from some African country who was taller and stouter than him and he felt for the first time that someone is looking down on him. Check on Google images, that pic is worth seeing. Its like tht huge guy is telling Ronaldo, " Come talk to someone of your size". LOLsQuote:
Originally Posted by Raykco
You are talking about this http://www.campionatulmondial2010.ro...Portugalia.jpgQuote:
Originally Posted by Saransh Vatsa
Or this one :D is from the same game.
http://www2.pictures.zimbio.com/gi/I...REhpvSraMl.jpg
Yes Yes Yes!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! This one only!!!! U got me perfect :D U can see that huge guys expression, it is like he will eat Ronaldo up and won't even burp!!!!!!!!!!!!! I think this pic is quite popular actually......Quote:
Originally Posted by PricopGeorgeCătălin
I know this from a video :) and yea it's quite popular.Quote:
Originally Posted by Saransh Vatsa
I don't care what anyone says but Ronaldo is easily the best player in the world.
Cristiano...cristiano...cristiano...
CRISTIANO RONALDO :D
Ronaldo fan boys coming out of their closets when Messi is injured :rolleyes: :D
