4-5-1 vs 4-4-2

Hello,

I had a game yesterday: it was cup semi-finals.
I played against weaker team, but lost 2-1.
He was playing 4-4-2. I countered it with 4-5-1 V style.
I had red arrows on my DMC, DL & DR.
Should I try something else tomorrow against him & what tactics should I use? :S

Thanks in advance,
~Eerik.

442narrow

Hey!
Thanks for your fast answer, but I'm not really sure how does the 4-4-2 Narrow look like.. So could you please post a pic or explain it more.

~Eerik.

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Pic shamelessly stolen from another thread.

The narrow diamond is usually played with short passing (due to players close together) and through the middle, which is why it usually works when 4-5-1V doesnt, which is a flank based formation.

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Originally Posted by Maranwe

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Pic shamelessly stolen from another thread.

The narrow diamond is usually played with short passing (due to players close together) and through the middle, which is why it usually works when 4-5-1V doesnt, which is a flank based formation.

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The logic is true,but vice versa the game engine...4-4-2 ND is easily beaten by 4-4-2 classic,and 4-5-1 is counter-formation of 4-4-2 classic.

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Originally Posted by heavenzeyez1

Hello,

I had a game yesterday: it was cup semi-finals.
I played against weaker team, but lost 2-1.
He was playing 4-4-2. I countered it with 4-5-1 V style.
I had red arrows on my DMC, DL & DR.
Should I try something else tomorrow against him & what tactics should I use? :S

Thanks in advance,
~Eerik.

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I often against 4-4-2 c with 4-5-1v, and always work well
-----------ST------------
-AML---------------AMR-
------MC-------MC------
----------DMC----------- Up to ur DMC
-DL----DC----DC----DR-
My order, normal mentality, down both flanks, own half, mixed passing, zonal marking with counter attack.

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Originally Posted by essokimo

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i prefer to cristmas tree thn 4-4-2 nd, sometimes it doesn't work for me.

Thanks guys, I guess I'll go 4-5-1 V again and hope for better luck! ;)
If I find out that it really doesn't go well, I guess I'll change to 4-4-2 narrow then.

~Eerik.

I think the 3-2-2-2-1 Butterfly works, too.

Just wanted to say, thank you all!
I'm in the finals now.
I played 4-5-1 V-style and won 2-0.

~Eerik.

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Originally Posted by heavenzeyez1

Just wanted to say, thank you all!
I'm in the finals now.
I played 4-5-1 V-style and won 2-0.

~Eerik.

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Good job buddy! what tactic(order) did you go with?

Thanks!
I played normal mentality, passing through both flanks, pressing own half, strong tackling, mixed passing, zonal marking, counter-attacks.
I also had a red arrow on my DMC.

~Eerik.

E: All in all, it worked really well, because I had like 27 shots against his 9.

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Originally Posted by heavenzeyez1

Thanks!
I played normal mentality, passing through both flanks, pressing own half, strong tackling, mixed passing, zonal marking, counter-attacks.
I also had a red arrow on my DMC.

~Eerik.

E: All in all, it worked really well, because I had like 27 shots against his 9.

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4-5-1 V style vs 4-4-2 very effective formation?

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Originally Posted by 3>Taeyeon<3

4-5-1 V style vs 4-4-2 very effective formation?

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It did the job for me! ;)

~Eerik.

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Originally Posted by Royal Lions

I think the 3-2-2-2-1 Butterfly works, too.

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I have to agree.Today's home match against 4-4-2 classic: 0-1 till half time when played 4-5-1V,in 52 min I changed my tactic to 3-2-2-2-1 butterfly,totatally controlled the game and won 2-1(goals in 57 and 87 min)

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Originally Posted by heavenzeyez1

Thanks!
I played normal mentality, passing through both flanks, pressing own half, strong tackling, mixed passing, zonal marking, counter-attacks.
I also had a red arrow on my DMC.

~Eerik.

E: All in all, it worked really well, because I had like 27 shots against his 9.

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Ahaha, so wrong tactic on first leg :p

if you have the stronger players, you shouldn't be using a counter formation, the time you need to use a counter formation is when you are the weaker side.