How to beat 4-3-1-2 wide ?

Hello i have cup match in 3 hours. First match from 2 and his team is better. This is home match so i dont wanna give him any score. So i must play defensive i think. His tactic :

DL-DC-DC-DR
ML-MC-MR
AMC
ST-ST

I think about this :

DL-DC-DC-DL
DMC-DMC
MR-MC-Ml
ST

THe avarage quality is comparable but he has on the field lost o 37-39 players with specialization. I have only ST (31 witch shots) and GK (37 with eye on eye defend). My attack so st an MC are 25-29., and defensive rather wors 20-23 but one dmc and dc have 29. If wanna screen both teamts please say.

Cmon need to win ;) and give him no score on his away match :)

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Originally Posted by losiu1670uasdasd

Hello i have cup match in 3 hours. First match from 2 and his team is better. This is home match so i dont wanna give him any score. So i must play defensive i think. His tactic :

DL-DC-DC-DR
ML-MC-MR
AMC
ST-ST

I think about this :

DL-DC-DC-DL
DMC-DMC
MR-MC-Ml
ST

THe avarage quality is comparable but he has on the field lost o 37-39 players with specialization. I have only ST (31 witch shots) and GK (37 with eye on eye defend). My attack so st an MC are 25-29., and defensive rather wors 20-23 but one dmc and dc have 29. If wanna screen both teamts please say.

Cmon need to win ;) and give him no score on his away match :)

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i dont think you need to have 2 DMC

i guess 4-1dmc-4-1 will do the trick.

more midfielders is more ball position

GThiught about 2 DMC to stop him strong attack, and give counter attack. But if you say what with arrows or pasing etc ?

this is his tactic - Attachment 10326

4-1-4-1 or 4-5-1 V .

arows and orders ?

bump?

bump? 1 hour !

I would use 4-5-1 V with red arrow on my aml and amr and also my striker.. Mixed focus, mixed passing, own half, no counter, no offside trap, zonal marking of course.. Mentality attacking. I hope it helps.. Please post the result afterwards too, if you are willing to...

ok its good idea... but like i said i prefer to play defensive. Ang give him no score (counting double) couse this is his away match. Cup.

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Originally Posted by losiu1670uasdasd

ok its good idea... but like i said i prefer to play defensive. Ang give him no score (counting double) couse this is his away match. Cup.

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You mean you will play home today? What I suggest if you play home is, to use attacking mentality, score as many as you can to gain advantage in the second leg.. If your team rating is higher than his, then you can use whole pitch pressure.. Like today, I played home against someone with lower rating than my team, I pressed the whole pitch and use attacking mentality, and I manage to score 4 and not letting him score any goals.. It depends on your rating too. Whole pitch pressure will tire your player more too...

he is better, check 1 post :) Yeah score is important, but i think i cant let him goal to scoure (double in general counting) Then i will play ofensive in my away to score double point ;p thats my idea;p but i will play 4-1-4-1 or 4-5-1 v style;)

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Originally Posted by losiu1670uasdasd

he is better, check 1 post :) Yeah score is important, but i think i cant let him goal to scoure (double in general counting) Then i will play ofensive in my away to score double point ;p thats my idea;p but i will play 4-1-4-1 or 4-5-1 v style;)

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It's your call then.. But personally I prefer 4-5-1 V since this formation is a versatile formation. You can use this formation for both attacking and defending, it's just the matter of orders and arrows. I suggest that if his team is better, do not press the whole pitch.. Because sometimes pressing the whole pitch will allow them to counter, and if his team is better (especially if his striker outrank your defender) it will be easier for them to exploit your defense.. Use attacking mentality and own half, without counter nor offside trap.

For your experience,just play 4-1dmc-3w-1amc-1 with dmc blue arrow..ml/mr/amc red arrow...it should work..i just won 4-0 with my 2nd team to a stronger team...

use 4-1-3n-1-1....4-1-4-1 will not work nor will 4-5-1. 4-1-3n-2 will win it for sure. I lost only 2 games in 2 seasons and those were meaningless as i had a big advantage from the first leg. I am cup and cl final away from back to back treble

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Originally Posted by whiterabbit

use 4-1-3n-1-1....4-1-4-1 will not work nor will 4-5-1. 4-1-3n-2 will win it for sure. I lost only 2 games in 2 seasons and those were meaningless as i had a big advantage from the first leg. I am cup and cl final away from back to back treble

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Originally Posted by Brian Dang

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the difference between your team and my suggestion are the 3n vs 3w. Basically i suggested 4-1-3n-1-1 u 4-1-3w-1.....i suggested 3n cause i am a firm believer in going narrow if the opponent plays wide. In 4-1-3n-1-1 vs 4-3w-1-2 every player of the opponent is marked and double marked while also having more mids to control the game in the middle of the park. Plus u have the am roaming freely around to create havoc.

I would use 4-1-2-1-2 ND.

Orders: Normal mentality, short pass in the middle, own half, hard tackle, yes counter, no offside trap, zonal marking.
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Originally Posted by Brian Dang

For your experience,just play 4-1dmc-3w-1amc-1 with dmc blue arrow..ml/mr/amc red arrow...it should work..i just won 4-0 with my 2nd team to a stronger team...

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Pls Orders Bro!!

Thank You!;)

http://i61.tinypic.com/j9mwr6.jpg
Offensive minded, in the middle, whole pitch, hard tackle, short pass, zonal, off side trap on.
blue arr on DMC and red arr on AMC and ST's

Good luck!

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Originally Posted by Bubba

http://i61.tinypic.com/j9mwr6.jpg
Offensive minded, in the middle, whole pitch, hard tackle, short pass, zonal, off side trap on.
blue arr on DMC and red arr on AMC and ST's

Good luck!

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Thank You Bro!!!!!

What I said was the result tomorrow :p

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Originally Posted by Brian Dang

For your experience,just play 4-1dmc-3w-1amc-1 with dmc blue arrow..ml/mr/amc red arrow...it should work..i just won 4-0 with my 2nd team to a stronger team...

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Pls Orders!!!
Thank You!!! :D

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Originally Posted by Bence Tresó

Pls Orders!!!
Thank You!!! :D

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Just beat 4-3W-1-2 using 4-4-2- narrow diamond. Won 2-0 against a similar rated team.

Attacking
Through the Middle
Whole Pitch
Hard Tackling
Short Passing
Zonal Marking
Counter Attack

Statistics (me-opponent):
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Possession: 71-29
Total Shots: 18-6
Shots on Target: 7-2
Shot Efficiency%: 29-0
Passes Completed%: 83-82
Corners: 3-3
Free Kicks: 0-1
Yellow Cards: 0-0
Red Cards: 0-0
Saves: 0-1

3-1-4-2 is the best for me

Try 5-3-2
DL-DC-DC-DC-DR
MC-MC-MC
ST-ST
Defence, Middle, Own half, Easy, Long, Zonal, Force counter attacks

4-5-1V Works for me in most matchups. I sometimes start with 4-4-2 Attacking with 2 strikers (one of my strikers is also trained by me to also move in AML spot and believe me this was worth it!) If I score first, I switch to 4-5-1V Hard Def, waiting for a counter attack. If the other player watches the match, I see the changes he does on his formation and I change as well, but 4-5-1V has given me 2 first possitions on my first 2 leagues and 1 CL the second year. This combo 4-4-2 and 4-5-1V(Or Muhrinio style 4-5-1) works for me every single time. I am 3rd on my league with same points as the first and second but we have difference in goals.

Edit: I ended up getting my 3rd championship this year :) This last league though I decided that I would sit out the competition and aim to finish lower than 8th so I would get the skill points without losing quality thus having a really good chance at getting triple crown in the league after this! Still I favor 4-4-2D to 4-5-1V those 2 formations work like a charm for me and I think given the fact that I have all the players to try every formation out there that this combo is the best!

3w-1-4-2,or narrow diamond...:)

I started 4-5-1V vs a fairly even team and I switched to 4-4-2D when he substituted most of his good player for weaker ones, scoring 3 goals in 7 minutes :) -> https://scontent-a-lhr.xx.fbcdn.net/...b8&oe=5487B05B

I think he did that when he realised he would not take a positive outcome and wanted to save the humiliation xD

He substitued 6 players...friendly match, i suppose..

I just won the cup final (season 8) against 4-3-1-2 wide using this variation of narrow diamond:

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i suggest 3-5-2N (flat)
but my trick was use red arrow like this:
st st
ml mc(up) mc mc(up) mr
dc dc(down) dc

can use every tactic.
but pass use mix ,only

i play top11 more than 2yrs. reccommended

I just won Cup final 2-0 with 3N-1-3W-1-2. Arrow down Dmc and arrows up ml/r amc.

3N-1-4-2 Counter on defensive. Worked wonders for me