is 4-1-2-1-2 ND unbeatable

Dears,
I alaways face problems when playing against 4-1-2-1-2 ND
I tried
4-1 (dmc)-3w-2
3-1 (dmc)-4-1 (amc)-1
3-4-1 (amc)-2
3-1(dmc)-3w-1(amc)-2
4-4-2

The previous strategies I have tried them againt teams weaker or almost equal to me and usually lose


Last match in the champion league played a home match
Against a team that is in quality is much close to me
And have lost 3-2
The first half I played 3-1-4-1-1 and ended with 1-1
The second half I changed it to 3-1-3w-1-2 and received more 2 goals and scored one

I have a second leg today
So how to deal with this formation

nothing is unbetable....
try 4-5-1 V

RED ARROW in ur ST, normal mentality,through flanks,

Back up scenario if he is much stronger, defensive mentality,counter attack ,normal tackling, through flanks,

You need excellent AMR-Ls to play 4-5-1V

gl

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Originally Posted by dimdim1

nothing is unbetable....
try 4-5-1 V

RED ARROW in ur ST, normal mentality,through flanks,

Back up scenario if he is much stronger, defensive mentality,counter attack ,normal tackling, through flanks,

You need excellent AMR-Ls to play 4-5-1V

gl

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I'm totally agree with him...
Or you can try 4-5-1 v motivated with attacking mentality through flanks with mixed passing, put red arrows on both ST, AML/AMR and DMC for extra offensive and also blue arrows for all defender..
Thats all work for me to beat 4-4-2 ND.. :cool:

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Originally Posted by Jimmy Carter

I'm totally agree with him...
Or you can try 4-5-1 v motivated with attacking mentality through flanks with mixed passing, put red arrows on both ST, AML/AMR and DMC for extra offensive and also blue arrows for all defender..
Thats all work for me to beat 4-4-2 ND.. :cool:

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I am not fun of many arrows (specially in DCs),but u can try it as Jimmy said.
imo no blues at all ,one red to ur ST.
This will give u possesion ..if u are 0-0 after 60m and if u still have possesion put red to ur AMR-Ls .
As i told u before u need excellent wings to play 4-5-1v

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Originally Posted by dimdim1

I am not fun of many arrows (specially in DCs),but u can try it as Jimmy said.
imo no blues at all ,one red to ur ST.
This will give u possesion ..if u are 0-0 after 60m and if u still have possesion put red to ur AMR-Ls .
As i told u before u need excellent wings to play 4-5-1v

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yup,
this is an option for you, about what do you want to use, you are the manager, you manage your team.. :)

I have aml and amr with 3 star quality
And have ml and mr with 5 stars quailty
Could I play with ml and mr in the position of aml and amr
Or remain with the two 3 star players in their original positions

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Originally Posted by emadbsb

I have aml and amr with 3 star quality
And have ml and mr with 5 stars quailty
Could I play with ml and mr in the position of aml and amr
Or remain with the two 3 star players in their original positions

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playing players not in the real position is not good idea.. you might be loses some possesion, but why you dont try playing that AML/AMR anyway?? 5* not always guarantee tha players can plying well,..

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Originally Posted by emadbsb

I have aml and amr with 3 star quality
And have ml and mr with 5 stars quailty
Could I play with ml and mr in the position of aml and amr
Or remain with the two 3 star players in their original positions

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Try 3-1-4-2 with red arrows in your 5 * ML MR. I think it is a better option than using AMR AML with only 3 star, additionally taking into account that he is defending with DL DR; in my opinion, your options of scoring from long rage shots from your wingers will increase. Use blue arrows in two DC and DMC to better counter his attacks.

Cholo Simeone

I've just won against a good team that played 4-1-2-1-2 ND. I used 3N-1-5-1. Defensive with long passes. Red arrows on my wide midfielders, and blue arrows on my 3 defenders.

I won 3-1away with the 4-5-1V :)))
Thanks for support

i know this is a late reply, but actually the best counter for the 4-1-2-1-2 nd is the 4-1-3n-2. used with mixed, mixed, attacking, hard/normal tackling, zonal, own half and no counter/no offside. red arrows on middle MC and both STs

My friend started loosing all his games playing that formation (after originaly pwn'ing)...

Worst case for him was against this formation:

DC DC DC
DMC
MR MC MC MC MR

ST

I beat him comfortably myself with it in a friendly (and he have much stronger sqaud), used passing over flanks, defensive, counter attack, rest normal and no offside... He had little to no flank attack, so I just shut down the central areas complettely and counter attacked his exposed flanks myself.