CL Final against Stronger 4-4-2 Classic

Hi there,

Need some help, im playing tomorrow against a stronger 4-4-2 classic team, his team is rated at 36,9 and mine is 35,1... i usually play on 4-5-1 V or 4-4-2 motivated... but when i play against 4-4-2 my team just doesnt play that well and never found a formation to counter it... any sugestions??? i guess my problem is in orders, usually i play down both flanks, attacking, middle pressure, mixed passing. Also any suggestions to play against 4-1-4-1? its another formation that keeps bringing me problems... anyways, thanks :)

413w11 or 413w2 deffensive ,own half,counter attack ,red arrows on ml mr or not depend on the situation ,hard tackles

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Originally Posted by essokimo

413w11 or 413w2 deffensive ,own half,counter attack ,red arrows on ml mr or not depend on the situation ,hard tackles

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That to counter 4-4-2 stronger team or 4-1-4-1?? thanks:)

any ohter sugestions?!

Play 4-1-4-1.
And you ca turn it into 4-5-1, if that does not work.
Can't tell you if it works against a stronger team, i have faced only weaker teams.

4-1-4-1 worths a try, but as Eugen Christea wrote it is no counter that always tricks 4-4-2, but depends on the orders of your opponent.
Based on the strength difference I would select normal mentality and focus passing on both flanks with mixed passing and pressing own half.
You can put red arrows on your ML/MR and optionally blue ones on your central defenders I could win this season 4-1 at a player with +4 quality, but it really depends on his orders and arrows.

Yes, i forgot about the red arrows on ML MR.
They are ment so you will defend with 4 on the side, and for you to attack with 3 players.

Blue on the DC's, i'm not sure, i do not use them, at all.

First of all, thanks for your help,

So basically, when im attacking it would be a 4-5-1 V style if i put red arrows on ML/MR right? i guess his 4-4-2 would become an 4-2-2-2 hexagon when attaking, so maybe your advices with DR and DL with red arrows to block his wingers, what u say? what would u guys say about a 5-3-2, DC DC DC - DMR DML with red arrows (have 2 players for each side, one plays DML/ ML/ AML and the other DMR/ MR/ AMR) MC MC MC - ST ST ??? normal mentality, short pass, mixed, pressure own half with counter atacks... i still think ill follow your advices and play with 4-1-4-1, but still want your advice for 5-3-2... ... thanks

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Originally Posted by fartop

First of all, thanks for your help,

So basically, when im attacking it would be a 4-5-1 V style if i put red arrows on ML/MR right? i guess his 4-4-2 would become an 4-2-2-2 hexagon when attaking, so maybe your advices with DR and DL with red arrows to block his wingers, what u say? what would u guys say about a 5-3-2, DC DC DC - DMR DML with red arrows (have 2 players for each side, one plays DML/ ML/ AML and the other DMR/ MR/ AMR) MC MC MC - ST ST ??? normal mentality, short pass, mixed, pressure own half with counter atacks... i still think ill follow your advices and play with 4-1-4-1, but still want your advice for 5-3-2... ... thanks

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Thats not 5-3-2, it's 3n-2w-3n-2.
It's weak on the sides.
The point is to be good defending.
And if you score, it's good, if you don't, you go to penaltyes.

Yes, when your attacking your formation is 4-5-1 V, but when your defending is 4-1-4-1.
This meens that you have 4 defending on the side, and 5 defending in the middle(DMC).

And if you go to pen's, you will win, because this game sucks :)
I lost last seasons final, to a weaker team :))(5-4 penaltyes)

all you need is a amc because 4 4 2 does not have a dmc

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Originally Posted by Eugen Cristea

Thats not 5-3-2, it's 3n-2w-3n-2.
It's weak on the sides.
The point is to be good defending.
And if you score, it's good, if you don't, you go to penaltyes.

Yes, when your attacking your formation is 4-5-1 V, but when your defending is 4-1-4-1.
This meens that you have 4 defending on the side, and 5 defending in the middle(DMC).

And if you go to pen's, you will win, because this game sucks :)
I lost last seasons final, to a weaker team :))(5-4 penaltyes)

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Thanks man, big help, after the game ill tell u something :)

Good news mate,

Game just ended right now, and i won 3-2. Played on a 4-1-4-1 formation has you adviced me, ML/MR and also on DR/DL, Mixed pass, down both flancks, normal mentality, high pressure, force counter, normal tackle and zonal marking! For the first 20m had game control in all aspects but with no big chances, but was allready wining 1.0. Then took of the red arrows at DL/DR and put on DMC just to take more control on the mdfield, scored the second goal and came back for the inicial formation. Second half he must have made changes, his team was taking possession and scored 2 goals on the first 10m of second half, both on direct free kicks. Changed to 4-1-3W-1-1 cause one of my MC can play also at AMC to have more presenc on that field area and to support the ST and scored the 3rd goal. Went back for initial formation but changed to short pass, dont know if it makes any sence, but tried to get more possesion, took off red arrows from DL/Dr and put back on DMC. Big game from both teams.

thanks for all your help :)

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it is logical to win this team with any formation!!

Yes, in that case one formation is much stronger than the other... anyways it was a big help from eugene for me to win this game...:)

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Originally Posted by essokimo

it is logical to win this team with any formation!!

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For the record, that team is my wife's team.
And you could say i could play any formation, and win.
But that's not true.
I lost both the championship and the CL final, last year, with the same value gap, in my favour.
I had players with good grades, i played the couter, to his formation, i had the better team, but i lost at the penalty shootout...
And the league, the one who won, had a 21-22 qual team, and me 26-27, i could not beat him in ither of the games in the season.
And on top of that, i had a troll result, in the only game i did not watch, in the season...

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Originally Posted by fartop

Yes, in that case one formation is much stronger than the other... anyways it was a big help from eugene for me to win this game...:)

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Glad to be of service! :)

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Originally Posted by Eugen Cristea

For the record, that team is my wife's team.
And you could say i could play any formation, and win.
But that's not true.
I lost both the championship and the CL final, last year, with the same value gap, in my favour.
I had players with good grades, i played the couter, to his formation, i had the better team, but i lost at the penalty shootout...
And the league, the one who won, had a 21-22 qual team, and me 26-27, i could not beat him in ither of the games in the season.
And on top of that, i had a troll result, in the only game i did not watch, in the season...

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sorry for this sometimes its stupid game engine