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							Agreed, mate!
 As I am a 4-5-1V favourite, it doesn't work any more.
 I found 3-2-2-2-1 Butterfly really works for that tricky tactics!  
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
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							I like 3-1-4-2
 Blue on the two outer dcs, blue on the ml/mr
 And attack through the middle.
 Then later on you can play with the ml/mr arrows if needed and you can play with the middle and mixed passing.
 
 But you do need a decent level team
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
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							Just played mine 4-5-1 V against 4-4-2... against the weaker team... damn draw 0:0... and even had a chance to loose in the end... tomorrow again the team against me in cup also with 4-4-2 but better in quality than mine... 
 
 Not sire which one to use to counter that... thinking of butterfly...
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
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					4-5-1 V style does not beat 4-4-2 classic any more ??????
				
					
						
							I have a match today for a CL against 4-4-2 same quality in his home. I will try 3-4-1-2 or 4-3w-1-2
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							Just make sure to use a formation with an amc since 442 doesn't have a dmc
						 
 
 
 
 
 
 
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							Or a 4-4-1-1 iam think it
						 
 
 
 
 
 
 
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							kleosfc let us know the one you have used and how did it work?
						 
 
 
 
 
 
 
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							hii my friend.next time you can try this...i used it before and its make me win  i played motivated 4-5-1 against 4-4-2 (same quality)..... i used this: 4-5-1 flat formation.             arrows: red to dl dr and ml and mr...blue to the 3mc's (but they must be fast players).                orders: defensive mentality focus passing down both flanks   mixed passing zonal marking hard tackle      no offside trap...yes counter attack.   in those orders i win thew final champions league 4-0!! i hope i help you i played motivated 4-5-1 against 4-4-2 (same quality)..... i used this: 4-5-1 flat formation.             arrows: red to dl dr and ml and mr...blue to the 3mc's (but they must be fast players).                orders: defensive mentality focus passing down both flanks   mixed passing zonal marking hard tackle      no offside trap...yes counter attack.   in those orders i win thew final champions league 4-0!! i hope i help you
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
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