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let's say after 11 seasons my 4-3-3 lost 7/10 match vs a team playing 4-1-2-1-2
I'm speaking about 2 strong teams playing against each others . with almost same starts quality .
So can we consider now for sure that 4-1-2-1-2 is a counter for 4-3-3 ?
Did this happened to you ? tell me what you think
Diamond formation?.... not usually... 4-3-3 that I use had problems usually with 4-1-4-1...
Yep diamond , 4-1-2-1-2 , i used once a 3-4-3 against it to win , but 4-3-3 loses against it , do you know any effective counter for diamond ?
My default formation is one of the hardest counter against 41212. It is asymmetric, though.
The hardest counter against sole defender flanks (DL DR and no other flank) is 3 players on the flanks (two on one side and one on the other), and the two-player flank being AMR+DMR (or AML+DML). My default formation meet these requirements.
451V is popular a counter against 41212, but not effective enough to be called a hard counter.
I have been using 3-1-4-2 for the longest time attacking down flanks. 4 out of 5 times it wins.Quote:
Originally Posted by ElPocho
Best counter for 433 is 4141 flat
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how about 3-4-3 ?
You mean a counter for 343Quote:
Originally Posted by ElPocho
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No i mean 3-4-3 as a counter for 4-1-2-1-2
any formation can beat any formation.....................
451 was THE best counter now i do 4321
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Alright , i will try it
which formation to use agasint this kind of 4-3-3?? need help fast match is in 2 hours :D
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Use 4-1-2-1-2 diamond always works , of course if both of your team are same level of strength let's say
ye we both are 27.3 . 4-1-2-1-2 is
DL / DC / DC / DR
DMC
MC / MC
AMC
ST / ST
ye?
Hi,3-4-3 may be a counter for 4-1-2-1-2 depending on the team you're facing and your team ability.
Expecially if you are playing away and/or your opponent is stronger than you,
you should have one defender more than your opponent's ST total number,so 3-1-4-2 is preferreable to 3-4-3,in order to counter amc with a dmc,and to use 3 DC against his 2 ST.
If situation is good for you,during the match,you may switch to 3-4-3. But always be carefull on start.
Today I have to face a very strong 4-3-3 opponent (i think 4-3-3 is a bit more prevedible than 4-1-2-1-2
,but considerations for countering it are the same):
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and,since I don't use MR and ML,I counter him with a 5-1-2-2:
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In the first match vs him I won 2-0 at home.
Now I play away,and it will be more difficult,however let's try...
yes that's it , pressing: own half,mentality: attacking or hard attacking,passing style: mixed ,zonal marking
can u write here if u win that match today with 5-1-2-2 ?Quote:
Matteo de Clemente
and what u think about this ? i usually play 4-1-4-1 and should i keep it against this?
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This is a quite inaccurate formation,since he can't believe he may successfully defend with 2 only players. 4-1-4-1 should be ok,but if he doesn't create you problems,you may switch on 4-3-1-2 or 4-4-1-1 ,during your match.
Of course,you have to measure his offensive strength,first.
Within 20 minutes I'll learn. I hope I win,but away matches are always difficult.Quote:
Originally Posted by Myvalentine
won 3-2 against that strange formation :D with 4-1-4-1 so league 1st place is mine :D
Hi, final result was 1-1.Quote:
Originally Posted by Myvalentine
I had a lot of opportunities to win,but I risked to be defeated for a bad performance of my GK (maybe he needs rest).
Moreover a draw is also a good result for me,because I'm the leader and he's second at -3 points.
However,this is the first time he doesn't win an internal match...
I hoped to win,but this is ok too.
This is a formation I'll propose again in such situations. Of course every match has its own history.
So, test it to see if it's compatible with your team abilities and your targets.
I hope to have helped you.
If you have considerations about,please post it.I'll answer as soon as I can
Bye
I have had a lot of success this first season against narrow formations. A lot of players seem to use a back 4 with no wide players forward......
When I see this I have gone with a back 3, R/LWB, R/LM, and either a CAM/2ST or R/LW and a lone ST. Going down the flanks. First time I tried this I won the second leg cup tie 9-0 after a tough 3-1 win in the first leg. 3-1 would normally seem to be a good result except that I had a 2* avg advantage on most opponents and am spoiled. If I concede or score less than 4 I consider it a fail. If I do both I get pissed.
i`ll try it tomorrow in CL final and tell result.Quote:
Matteo de Clemente
4-0 atfer 1st half with 5-1-2-1-1 :D :D . now i went 4-1-2-1-2
FT won 4-0 :D
