4-5-1 V-style ineffective against 4-4-2?

I used the recommended 4-5-1 V in a league match today against a lower quality (32-26) 4-4-2 flat. After scoring in the 1st minute I was thinking I would dominate, but suddenly he scored in the 9th and 11th minute to go up 2:1. I tied it at 2, but ended up losing 3:2 for the final score.
Here's what irks me...

Possession -> 67%
Shots -> 28-13
Passes complete -> 87% - 79%
Corners 12-5

All stats were won by me except the one that matters, the score. Two questions...First, HOW???!! Second Question; Is the 4-5-1 V no longer effective against the 4-4-2? I had a match at the end of the last season that I had to fight to get a 2:1 win, again with a much higher quality team. Also, how should I use my motivation arrows in the future? :mad::confused:

Thoughts?

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Originally Posted by swickster

I used the recommended 4-5-1 V in a league match today against a lower quality (32-26) 4-4-2 flat. After scoring in the 1st minute I was thinking I would dominate, but suddenly he scored in the 9th and 11th minute to go up 2:1. I tied it at 2, but ended up losing 3:2 for the final score.
Here's what irks me...

Possession -> 67%
Shots -> 28-13
Passes complete -> 87% - 79%
Corners 12-5

All stats were won by me except the one that matters, the score. Two questions...First, HOW???!! Second Question; Is the 4-5-1 V no longer effective against the 4-4-2? I had a match at the end of the last season that I had to fight to get a 2:1 win, again with a much higher quality team. Also, how should I use my motivation arrows in the future? :mad::confused:

Thoughts?

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In fact, 4-3n-2w-1 do it better. 4-5-1v have AML - AMR - (1) ST against 4 defenders, 4-4-2 have ML - MR - (2) ST against 4 defenders and 1 DMC . You see, 4-5-1v are not much stronger. And the second, what's about your orders and arrows?

It's still very effective, i always won. It's important to have red arrows DMC,DL,DR, normal mentality,counter on

Its just not ur day mate haha

If you are kinda equal in strength. Play 4 - 2N - 1 - 3

Or Stronger Play 4 - 4 - 2 and use Man to man.

If weaker play - 3 - 4 - 1 - 2 - Use Zonal

Whenever I play 4 - 4 - 2 / I set to Normal attacking and the two inner MC's to defending. and short passing.

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Originally Posted by Sibilare

If you are kinda equal in strength. Play 4 - 2N - 1 - 3

Or Stronger Play 4 - 4 - 2 and use Man to man.

If weaker play - 3 - 4 - 1 - 2 - Use Zonal

Whenever I play 4 - 4 - 2 / I set to Normal attacking and the two inner MC's to defending. and short passing.

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4-2N-1-3? Interesting. I have heard the similar with the narrow diamond. It's tricky though because it leaves the entire flank exposed to the DL/DR and ML/MR. I may try that.

There is no "effective" formation vs a 4-4-2
4-5-1 V, 4-4-2 ND, 4-3-3 can work, but depending from the players and the "bad" or "good" day :p

Sorry Scratch that 4 - 2N - 1 - 3.. I use a spreadsheet and was looking at another formation. Sorry again.. my bad.

There is an effective formation I have used 4 - 1 - 3N - 2 in Championship league twice and won and tied. My team was slightly stronger and won at Home with a 13% advantage (3 - 0) and tied away with a -5% (2 - 2).

Mind you I do play with four players with special abilities. Two for corner kicks (a Lefty and a Righty) and two Free kick specialists (A lefty and a righty).

I've seen suggestions for the Narrow Diamond, but what about a wide diamond? Or does that leave the center open?

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Originally Posted by swickster

I've seen suggestions for the Narrow Diamond, but what about a wide diamond? Or does that leave the center open?

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Wide Diamond and the similar formation (4-3w-1-2) aren't bad plays against the 4-4-2 classic. You each have two players in the central midfield. Your DMC will mark only one of the 2 MC's which leaves the midfield exposed if he chooses play through the middle. However, if he chooses to use red arrows on his MC's, he hurting his chances of neutralizing your AMC, which makes the midfield situation a wash.

Also when facing 4-4-2, I think its very important to reinterate what Nikolgiorgios said above. A hard counter for the 4-4-2 classic doesn't exist, but their are formations that do matchup fairly well with it, but that depends largely upon the form of your players.

I found this. It's very good.

Top 10 Top Eleven Tips to be Always the Champion !!!

https://youtu.be/N-Batd87aik