What can i do against 3-5-2 v? I don't have the positions to do 3n-2-2-1 butterfly... it's for CL and he out quality me 24 to 28 (hurray low lvls, lol)
my team:
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What can i do against 3-5-2 v? I don't have the positions to do 3n-2-2-1 butterfly... it's for CL and he out quality me 24 to 28 (hurray low lvls, lol)
my team:
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The positions available for your team are very limited. You have 2 MCs and 2 STs. At least 3 MCs and 3 STs are needed.
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mentality: defensive
passing: long
focus: mixed
tackling: hard
pressing: own half
force counter attacks
Put your MCs according to their favorite side. Switch AMC And ST to their favorite side if required, but they should be on opposite sides; for e.g if ST is put on right centre, AMC must be on left centre.
If you had 3 MCs and 3 STs, better formations would have been available.
man to man or zonal?Quote:
Originally Posted by Tactician
i'm working on getting more multi position players, but pickings are slim.....
also, i'm home team for first game, away for 2nd if that changes anything.
Zonal, and no offside trap.
It is difficult for you to win though with the players that you have.
Try this for the first match. Post the match results. If ever it did not work, I will give you another set of tactics for the next match.
Post your opponent's squad details.
Ok. I expect that his wingers will be shut out with the formation I gave you. I never tested such a formation, but on paper it looks ok and the orders are ok. There are better formations available but the positions made available by your players are limited. You need to get at least one more MC. No need to get one this season; wait for next season.
Have you already played? If not, during the match, if you see that things are not in your favor (you will notice that in the first 5-10 min; pressure will be always on your team), remove the red arrow on the DMC, substitute your AMC, and put MR is his place with a red arrow. Put passing focus on the flanks.
The problem is that your striker will be too isolated, but choices based on your squad is too limited. Playing with two strikers would have been better.
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I took jin (amc) off just so he doesn't get 2nd yellow...
santana and arto are my MC's and my AMC scored, would narrow diamond possibly work for the away match? or just keep this line-up?
Also got the achievement for breaking 15 game unbeaten streak!!
Don't use 4-4-2 N.D. Stick with the same formation (with the adjustments that I said before if required). If he changes to another formation, then may be you will need to make some changes.
I would like to say something else though. I don't like to help others beating their opponent when a significant match is involved because the opponent may have worked hard (and also may have invested a lot of money), and hence he may deserve to win the competition. I don't like things to be unfair. I have helped you to beat your opponent this time. Next time, you should work for it on your own.
Thanks for posting the results. So, his wingers were shut off (which I expected).
i understand. I wouldn't say he is all that better than me. idk, In the group stage of CL i went 5-0-1 22gf-5ga and he went 4-1-1 16gf-5gaQuote:
Originally Posted by Tactician
he was also changing his lineup/formation in grp stage though, but after grp stage he stop changing formation, makes me think maybe he built his team up and then maybe abandon it? He didn't show up to support in this game.
and his squad is only 14 deep, instead of 17, or 22...
Do something for me. Post your GK profile (private message if you want). I would like to see the distribution of his skill points.
private message wouldn't let me post from computer, only link, and i don't feel like hosting it so i guess i'll reply here...
GK:
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the 2 unassigned are from the match, has 9 to go b4 a star, or 7 when i apply those 2 cones.
That Richards seems to be a very fast trainer. Has he been performing well on the pitch so far?
not really, 7's and 8's in league and cup, 7's and a couple 6's in CL. only 1 mom out of 26 games this season.
he's my 4th defender in quality, and my normal defense only runs 3 in the back.
i guess 7's and 8's are the status quo for defenders though.
Most of the fast (or even the decent) trainers I have bought this season did not perform to expectation. I even managed to get a high quality nordgen with special ability, but he has not perform well so far.
One high quality nordgen with special ability that I have bought from the previous season has not been playing well enough too. He is a bit like Richards; DC with defensive wall special ability but with DMC as an extra position.
This season has been poor for me in terms of nordgens.
@ Tactician
When you say there are better formations w/ 3MC and 3ST what do you mean?
A defensive 4-3-3, mixed passing, through middle ? Any arrows?
I lost in the CL (with 4-4-2) against a 16.6 Team,. While I have 27.6pts..
I seem to win league and cup (even against stronger teams) but this guy in the CL kicked my a**..
Regards
No. But, 4-3-3 is one of the strongest formation in this game. 4-3-3 is an offensive formation, but some people have won with this formation using defensive orders too. You need to experiment, especially with the orders. No arrows are required.Quote:
Originally Posted by marius88
Hey.. Thanks for the reply.. but just to make sure:
This is my enemy:
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And this was my Setup in first match (where i lost 0:2) :
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Is 442 just the badest config i could use against his tactic?
Otherwise I don't really understand why i lost..
I would now change to 433 to have a chance winning with 3+ goals:
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And just play through the middle with short passing?! :/
Do you think this could work?
Thanks so far..
No. Long passing or mixed. Short passing works best when you a lot of player close together from midfield to attack, and with full pitch pressing against some formations. For 4-3-3, it is either long passing or mixed, and mainly pressing in own half.
I give you a 'tip' for this one. If 4-3-3 does not work in the first half (that is, if you conceed a goal, and your team has not scored at least 2 goals), you change your formation to 3N-2W(DML, DMR)-2N(MC)-3 for the second half. If still you feel your team is not doing enough, adjust the orders until you put full pressure on his team. So, choose the players that you will put on the bench appropriately so that you will be able to switch to that formation if required.
Thanks mate!!
So i am going to start with a 4-3-3 / mentality: defensive or normal / mixed passing / through middle / pressing own half / zonal marking..
Do you think i should use the offside trap? I never do.. This might be dangerous, right?
And if it doesn't work ill try to change to 3-2w-2n-3.. I'll keep it in mind before I setup my team!
thanks
No offside trap. I doubt whether this option has any positive effect. I have not yet found any order combinations with offside trap that work as it should.
Arrrright! I am hopefully going to bash that dude...
Going for the triple!!!
man, i was knocked out of my cup :( 4-4-2 is stupid.
i won 2nd game 3-1 but he switched formation to butterfly, which i've played and beaten before with my 4-2-3-1 so i used that in 2nd game.
still mad i lost cup though 2-1 to a stupid 4-4-2.
It happens. My team was knocked out the Cup this season by a team using a modified 4-3-3. When I look at the Cup competition window now, I feel sad because I know I could have won it. The positive part is that I learnt even more about tactics; that is, the defeats in the two legs caused me to work more on tactics. I am now better prepared to face such a team in the future.
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What orders did you use for the 4-2-3-1?
hard defensive, flanks, whole, hard, long, man to man no counter no offside. reds on ml mrQuote:
Originally Posted by Tactician
eventually added a red arrow to my cm as well. i think after i scored the first goal.
