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    Exclamation Need to get offensive against 4-3N-2W-1

    It's a formation I face quite often. I usualy use a 4-5-1 flat with arrows on wingers. This time I dumbly followed table of counter-formations and played 4-4-1-1, losing 3-1 at home against a weaker team (I'm 40, he's 35). Now I need to overcome this result in the second leg (champions league) so I need to win by 3. I think the AMC is essential since he has no DMC, so I am thinking either 4-3N-1-2 (not too fond of it though because RW is my star) or a rather offensive 3W-3N-3W-1. Anyone has other suggestions? I'm usually more conservative but I gotta go all-in now. What instructions are better with these formations?

    Below you can see how unfortunate I was to lose:

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    They made 3 goals in 10 minutes during the first half...

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    Never had a problem using 4-4-1-1 vs 4-3n-2w-1... What orders did you use?
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    Attacking, Mixed, Mixed, Low, Normal, Zone, Counter: On, Offside: Off. Red Arrows on Wingers and Striker.

    Maybe I would be better off with through both flanks? But problem was mainly D, which by the way is my strongest sector.

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    You could try 4-4-1-1 normal mentality, down the flanks, mixed/long balls, counter on. red arrows on ML/R.
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    Don't play down flanks. He has 4 each side and you have AMC. Mixed was the right thing to do.

    Playing attacking with counter was a problem. He barely had possession yet still matched you. This tells me he countered you.
    Don't put arrows on your strikers. It messes them up.

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    Quote Originally Posted by El Pistolero View Post
    Don't put arrows on your strikers. It messes them up.
    Duly noted.

    Quote Originally Posted by Kylos View Post
    You could try 4-4-1-1 normal mentality, down the flanks, mixed/long balls, counter on. red arrows on ML/R.
    That should be ok if it was 0-0 again, but I have to think offensively now. Isn't this too conservative for that effect?

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    Quote Originally Posted by TiagoNBA View Post
    It's a formation I face quite often. I usualy use a 4-5-1 flat with arrows on wingers. This time I dumbly followed table of counter-formations and played 4-4-1-1, losing 3-1 at home against a weaker team (I'm 40, he's 35). Now I need to overcome this result in the second leg (champions league) so I need to win by 3. I think the AMC is essential since he has no DMC, so I am thinking either 4-3N-1-2 (not too fond of it though because RW is my star) or a rather offensive 3W-3N-3W-1. Anyone has other suggestions? I'm usually more conservative but I gotta go all-in now. What instructions are better with these formations?

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    They made 3 goals in 10 minutes during the first half...

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    Last season..I used this..
    Quality about the same 4 both teams..I finished 1st and he 3rd...
    Tactic n order: Start with Normal (unless U could not score at 1st half then change to Attacking)/down both flanks/short passing/own half pressing/normal tackle/no offside/no counter
    Red arrows on AML/AMR if u dont score...
    P/s: Dont mistaken that U must attacking then u can win...as long as your team better quality..u dont need be rushed...
    Besides, U also can always used 4-4-1-1 ...red arrows on 2 flanks and AMC..normal also...same order in above...

    Good luck,bro
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    I play defensive mentality and get goals galore.. I think it depends on the players form and orders of the team... Normal mentality for me would be a safer option as your opponent is probably going to sit back and defend his lead...
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    What orders to use for 4-4-1-1 ?

    Quote Originally Posted by El Pistolero View Post
    Don't play down flanks. He has 4 each side and you have AMC. Mixed was the right thing to do.

    Playing attacking with counter was a problem. He barely had possession yet still matched you. This tells me he countered you.
    Don't put arrows on your strikers. It messes them up.

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    for 4-4-1-1 why down both flanks and don't use mixed ?

    Quote Originally Posted by Brian Dang View Post
    Last season..I used this..
    Quality about the same 4 both teams..I finished 1st and he 3rd...
    Tactic n order: Start with Normal (unless U could not score at 1st half then change to Attacking)/down both flanks/short passing/own half pressing/normal tackle/no offside/no counter
    Red arrows on AML/AMR if u dont score...
    P/s: Dont mistaken that U must attacking then u can win...as long as your team better quality..u dont need be rushed...
    Besides, U also can always used 4-4-1-1 ...red arrows on 2 flanks and AMC..normal also...same order in above...

    Good luck,bro

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