I am not losing almost any games except to a friend who is playing 4-2-2-2 with default settings.
We are same level and have approx same quality. Any suggestions on how to beat him?
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I am not losing almost any games except to a friend who is playing 4-2-2-2 with default settings.
We are same level and have approx same quality. Any suggestions on how to beat him?
Doesn't 4-5-1 V-formation beat this one?Quote:
Originally Posted by technotronic
Is it formation really important?
I play 4-3-3 and it's very good for me... :D
Which 4-2-2-2 there are more than one combination of the four central players which are wide and central.Quote:
Originally Posted by technotronic
If you mean like this:
DL--DC-DC--DR
----MC-MC----
AML--------AMR
------ST--ST----
Then:
-----------ST----------
AML-------------AMR
--------MC-MC-----
DML------------DMR
-----DC-DC-DC-----
All flat no arrows, or as above the V formation, both work well but I have more success with the butterfly, it's undefeated this season against five different formations. When someone counters it I'll change to .........
Then again you could read this:
http://forum.topeleven.com/tutorials...formation.html
u can try
-----------ST----------
ML(up)----MC----MR(up)
-----DMC---DMC--
----DC-DC-DC-DC-----
def+counter+no offsaid+mixed+mixed+zonal+normal tackle
The 4-2-2-2 is as you charted above. I tried the butterfly and drew 1:1.Quote:
Originally Posted by Accyrover
I also read the post you mentioned a while ago...
Tried 4-5-1V. Lost after penalties [1:1] if I'm not mistaken.Quote:
Originally Posted by July Fourth
I also tried this one already, lost an embarrassing 2:0. The bunker didn't work well for me.Quote:
Originally Posted by axim78
I guess I should try the butterfly again. Think it got the best result from all I tried.
Btw, 4-4-2 supposed to be good against 4-2-2-2 but I didn't get a chance to try it. Got my second striker injured on the 9th minute (had 6 injured players), when 2 out of 3 strikers injured and 2 out of 4 mc injured. All i got left was dc to sub. Lost while playing 5-4-1 3:0.
I will keep you updated on my quest to pwn 4-2-2-2 :)
Thank you all for the help!
If the Butterfly didn't quite work and as you are prepared to try to conquer this formation, give this a try. inverted butterfly or 3-6-1.
-------DC----DC----DC
---------DMC--DMC
MR/AMR--------------ML/AML
---------AMC---AMC
--------------ST
Attacking, Mixed, Whole pitch, Normal tackle, Mixed, Zonal, O/S on if you DC's are faster than his ST.. In this mode if your Defenders are faster, I play wide three at the back DL--DC--DR with down arrows on DC and both DMC and attack down both flanks.
If he has better quality AMC & ST, Defensive, Mixed, Own half, Normal, Long, Zonal, No O/S Counter on.
If possession is a big problem in both sets of orders switch to Flanks and short passing in attack and mixed when playing defensive with counter.
Thank you Accryrover. I will try that when I get the chance!
hmmm i always successful beat this formation using 4231 or 451v, im just def+counter.. maybe u need luck in ur defense :)
Today lost against one retard with that tactic even with about 13-15* more from my side, used 4-5-1 V, so I can say - dont use this, this lame tactic somehow beat 4-5-1 V... stupid game.
haha.. i think ur player not suit the 451v system :P
how about ur win bonus? maximum? morale? condition?
win bonus 7.5, morale- max! condition- never below 90...
If a system is failing that counters the oppositions attack it's usually just the game engine having it's way with you.
If it happens all the time against the same formation something is wrong with your orders, the only way to rectify this is by tweaking them slightly as you never know what the opponents orders are, the game engine gives you clues as to how he is playing, IE. ST (a) passes short to ST (b) or DC/DR/DL/DMC hits long ball up field all through the game.
Last night I changed orders four times, on paper I should have won comfortable, I had almost 70% possession away, no joy, 1-0 defeat, sometimes you have to accept, the game engine wins, not your opponent. :D
I think 4-1-2-1-2 can beat 4-2-2-2, dr and dl down, dmc up, with normal,mix pass to center, next day i have a match vs 4-2-2-2, I will update result . Hope ! ^_^
Well, I am one dmc and one amc short....
Today I have a match against my arch rival and I'm gonna try this:
-------ST-----ST----
---------AMC--------
ML----------------MR
---------DMC-------
DL--DC-----DC--DR
4-1-2-1-2
The match is in 50 minutes.... What do you guys think?
Should I change something? Should I go for narrow diamond?
Hi Mate !
For the 4-2-2-2 i can say to you that i used this formation many times but i lost different times. Here is the formation i lost with by 0-1.
his formation = 3dc-4ml-mc-mc-mr-3st : Result i lost 0-1 even if my team was better !!!
his formation = 4dl-dc-dc-dr- 3mc- aml-amr-st : Result drow 5-5 . My team was more stronger than his team and i have many special ability players. He didn't have none !!
his formation = 5-1-1-1-2st i won at 89' for a freekick. Strange formation this one.
my orders are attacking- both flanks- mixed/long passing -own half preasure- no counter - no offside. :(
I have a match against this 4-2-2-2 in champions he is stronger than me i dont know how to bit it.
Another formation i need help about is 4-3mc-aml-amr-st ! I really cant win this one !! Does anyone know how to win this?
-----------st----------
aml-------------amr
--------mc-mc-----
dml------------dmr
-----dc-dc-dc-----
Flat Formation, but possible add down arrows on DML and DMR to boost defence if required.
Short or mixed passing, down both flanks, with fast defenders use offside trap, pressing whole pitch in attacking mentality OR
Normal or defensive mentality, pressing own half with force counter and mixed passing.
Update about my match against 4-2-2-2...
Attachment 119
I played 4-1-2-1-2 wide, Defensive, mixed, own half, long, zonal, counter on.
Attachment 120
My friend had a match before so he didn't play his best players and they were tired. Here are our ratings:
Attachment 121
I got a red card at 43' and barely managed to win 3:2.
Didn't feel like a big win for me :\
