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  • 4-1-4-1

    1 16.67%
  • 3N-4-1-2

    2 33.33%
  • 4-5-1

    3 50.00%
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Thread: Best counter formation for simple 4-4-2

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    Question Best counter formation for simple 4-4-2

    Hey, this is going to be the last game of the season, and I need the win to be the champion. Opponent is weaker than me, and I just came from a tie away. I'm thinking about a 3-4-1-2 what do you guys think?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Carlos Eduardo Martins View Post
    Hey, this is going to be the last game of the season, and I need the win to be the champion. Opponent is weaker than me, and I just came from a tie away. I'm thinking about a 3-4-1-2 what do you guys think?
    You are on point....it has always been a problem for my 4 4 2 too and since you are stronger it should be an easy ride.

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    4-5-1 or 4-4-2 nd
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    Defensive counter attacks are the best so no chance of 3N-2-2-2-1.
    Actually you need a good striker who is either scout some or one on one soccer and one good DMC.
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    Narrow diamond is good vs 4-4-2, so is 4-3n-2w-1
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    3-1-4-2 or if you are better quality replace DMC with AMC

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    Quote Originally Posted by nikolgiorgos View Post
    4-5-1 or 4-4-2 nd
    I agree with nik

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    Quote Originally Posted by motrin View Post
    I agree with nik
    But if he meant the V-style, he was wrong. I've said this a lot of times, and I don't know why 4-4-2 seems to beat 4-5-1V.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Arion View Post
    But if he meant the V-style, he was wrong. I've said this a lot of times, and I don't know why 4-4-2 seems to beat 4-5-1V.
    I think it all depends on the opponent. I tend to go with the narrow diamond because it's so effective:
    Best counter formation for simple 4-4-2-narrow-diamond.jpg

    But any form of the 4-5-1 meets the criteria I look for (each striker double marked, any attacking midfielders marked, equal or more number of midfielders). It just has to be tailored to exploit weaker players of the defense (e.g. If they have weaker defensive wingers, focus passing on the wings). There are also many variations of the 4-5-1. Here's how I think they should be used:

    If you need to be super defensive against a much stronger opponent:
    Best counter formation for simple 4-4-2-4-1-4-1.jpg

    Fairly equal opponent:
    Best counter formation for simple 4-4-2-4-5-1-flat.jpg
    or
    Best counter formation for simple 4-4-2-4-5-1v.jpg

    You can even go crazy if it's a weaker or much weaker opponent:
    Best counter formation for simple 4-4-2-4-3-2w-1.jpg Best counter formation for simple 4-4-2-4-2-3w-1.jpg

    Honestly, looking at the above, of the 4-5-1 formations, the V looks very balanced. It gives up a little on the wings but if you have good DL/R, it should be ok. 4-5-1 flat looks good and 4-3-2W-1 looks even better.
    Last edited by motrin; 03-05-2016 at 12:57 PM.
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