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Hi friends,
As we know lateral thinking is very precious.We are hunting for experiments which become successful due to brave execution.
This is a place for sharing logical and non-logical experiment.

I am asking you! Have you seen or done any experiment please share here!!

Whether it is formation,tactics,order or other gameplay experiment please share with us so that we can find facts from that.

Aim:To find facts from experiments!!

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At last nothing is impossible just we need some bravery to imply some effort to make everthing possible and this experiment is always successful.

Back at lv11, I was facing a lv12 team in my Cup final.
Oppo was playing with 3-4-3 so I set 3 DC for his STs and DR-DL for his ML-MR (defense/counter/flanks/long pass)
In the first half was winning with 0-3 and oppo had a red card.
He switched to 3-4-2 but my counters worked well from the flanks.
So a 0-6, playing vs a higher lv oppo, with 5 D and playing defense.
That's the game :rolleyes:
* won the treble at that season

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After losing 3 back to back league matches I decided to take 2DMC.
There was not much difference in quality of both teams.My team was bit weak on paper.
I used 2 dmc due to opponent amc and 2 strikers.I used backward arrow on dmc and one DC was also there.
As opponent was not having ml or mr so I decided to hit his flanks.
I used attacking mentality with low press due to chance of opponent strikers counter attacks.
I used forward arrow on dl/dr/amr/aml.
My striker assisted 2 goals and aml scored 2 goals.

This was important win for me as I was losing league matches back to back.

Left(my team),right(opponent team)

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Players ratings and quality :
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I am working on new experiment!!
How special abilites works!When they works best!

Let me know...
I'm trying to find out, if you really need a CK, if you also have a PM.
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Now I'm trying to find out the best training session to raise 8% to 10% with less condition loss.

Yesterday I lost 0-4 with the Jack Daniels formation.

---------ST---------
AMC-AMC-AMC
MC - MC - MC
DMC-DMC-DMC

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Originally Posted by pcmacdaniel

Yesterday I lost 0-4 with the Jack Daniels formation.

---------ST---------
AMC-AMC-AMC
MC - MC - MC
DMC-DMC-DMC

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Wow that is out of box!

Today I played with one of the two super teams of my league.
Started with 4-1-4-1 but after the brake I used my classic 4-5-1V and won (def/counter/long pass).
That's what I mean saying "a lot of players, members of the forum claim that 4-5-1V is the best formation to win a better q team".

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Originally Posted by nikolgiorgos

Today I played with one of the two super teams of my league.
Started with 4-1-4-1 but after the brake I used my classic 4-5-1V and won (def/counter/long pass).
That's what I mean saying "a lot of players. members of the forum claim that 4-5-1V is the best formation to win a better q team".

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This was a match to remember.
You have just given me hope to beat my cup opponent :)

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Originally Posted by Medo zalata

This was a match to remember.
You have just given me hope to beat my cup opponent :)

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Indeed.
Few more details :
- I had the +8 team bonus (from training) in 4 categories - but i suppose my oppo must had some (with this q)
- I used the + defense bonus in the beginning (twice) but seems it didn't work - at least the first one
- I used the + attack bonus in the 2nd half (but still in defense mod) - maybe it helped
- Played with normal tackling, zone,
- Half of my players had (and still have) just good morale - I don't give boosters until the morale drops to poor-very poor.
- I had the lv3 bonus victory (not the most expensive one)
- I had the ball possession because of about 10 supporters - many thanks to Jing (Teda), pcmacdaniel and Boris (Beckstar) from the forum :)

Good luck

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Originally Posted by nikolgiorgos

Indeed.
Few more details :
- I had the +8 team bonus (from training) in 4 categories - but i suppose my oppo must had some (with this q)
- I used the + defense bonus in the beginning (twice) but seems it didn't work - at least the first one
- I used the + attack bonus in the 2nd half (but still in defense mod) - maybe it helped
- Played with normal tackling, zone,
- Half of my players had (and still have) just good morale - I don't give boosters until the morale drops to poor-very poor.
- I had the lv3 bonus victory (not the most expensive one)
- I had the ball possession because of about 10 supporters - many thanks to Jing (Teda), pcmacdaniel and Boris (Beckstar) from the forum :)

Good luck

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Last season I used this formation and I was unbeaten although I was the 4th team of quality in the league, and I had a ST as AMR and he was very good :D
It's very hard to find active managers at lvl 7 and even active ones don't attend others' matches.

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Originally Posted by Abhinavsharma

Wow that is out of box!

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I was disappointed, I thought I'd lose by more than 4. So if my opponent realizes, what I realize and decides to purposely lose tommorrow to avoid the tournament favorite in the QTR-Final, i'll still be going into the Lions Den sooner than I hope.

We're tied for first, but I have 5-4 agg. advantage... :(

#TankingFail

I'm a manager of 3 teams at three different levels, and I use the same formation of 4-4-2. These all teams are now standing at the first position.

So I have beaten 4-5-1v many times but first time with 3-5-2V.
Have a look
Left(my team)...Right(His team).

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Originally Posted by Abhinavsharma

So I have beaten 4-5-1v many times but first time with 3-5-2V.
Have a look
Left(my team)...Right(His team).

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Thats just pulling a central defender out, and putting him up front basically? How hard was the other guy, or do you think you would have won anyway?

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Originally Posted by Andrew Nifield

Thats just pulling a central defender out, and putting him up front basically? How hard was the other guy, or do you think you would have won anyway?

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He was no 1 player of league.
I did not cared to share quality of his team maybe you are confused.

Grats Abhi, you are learning.

In the past, I saw a post on this forum showing a 3W-5-2(V) beat a 4-5-1(V). It was Nik's team vs another team. Maybe he can comment here.

yes, older times when STs were playing more normal (LOL), 3W-5-2 was my favorite counter vs 4-5-1v but after they started not performing (ok, actually got a 7 and a no goal), I avoid to use 2ST and use a AMC (even if oppo has a DMC) or an extra MC (the more "talented" in attack) with a red arrow.
But I 'm not sure about it.
Maybe it's not a bad idea to "sacrifice" two STs (meaning both get a 7 and a no goal), to keep busy oppo defenders and score with your AML-R.

Yeah, that's my view is that the 2 STs keep the DCs busy and keep your other attackers in 1v1 situations. 2 ppl in the box is usually better than one, unless they have 3n DCs.

Ok, Abhi (and all)
That's one of the "mystery" formations of TE 3DC-DML-DMR-3MC-2ST
No counter as there is a solid defense from the middle and the flanks of defense, probably playing with defense counters and could be tricky sometimes if oppo uses red arrows for DML-DMR.
Usually what I do first, is to check his DML & DMR.
What positions are they playing ? Are the also DML-ML-AML ? or just DL-DML ? In the first case I must be careful because he could switch them to wingers or setting red arrows, performing like that. Also checking their stats (do they have many goals or assists ? ). In that case I prefer to use DR &DC watching also the wings of my defense.
If they are DL-DML, I prefer to use 3DC +1DMC and use another player as MC or AMC or 2nd ST.
Also prefer to play with defense/counter as attacking can cause opponents successful counters.
But all above are just tips and usually can't help playing vs that formation.
My experience so far, is that it's just a personal battle of my wingers vs oppo DML-DMR.
If my wingers are in a good day and win the duels, I 'll win.
Two games of this season for example
1) First league round : Playing home, oppo wasn't watching, his (her) defense was solid as a rock were my wingers crushed on.
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2) Second game of the league, today.
I was out and didn't watch so I just set a 4-5-1V, defense/counter, mix and normal all the others.
My wingers had a great day, her defenders not, and a domination came.
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What do I think ?
It's just a matter of a good day/bad day.

The first one used many right orders, while the second one used many wrong orders. The effect of randomness can make matters better or worst.

If the opponent used the right orders with that formation, it is expected that you will not beat that formation using your 'standard' 4-5-1(V) and other variants, at least not easily, even if you have advantage in quality; even 3N-3MC-2W-1 is not good enough. 3N-2W-3N-2 is a defensive formation that is meant to block a maximum of flank attacks in the final third. It is also very strong in the midfield region. The 2 wingers and the ST are doubly marked; defensive wingers and side DCs mark the offensive wingers, and all the 3 DCs can mark the ST. The overall effective marking is 2 defenders per attacker.

There is at least one counter formation for each formation in this game. In most cases, there are at least 2 counter formations. Saying that there is no counter for a particular formation is wrong. This can only happen if there is a flaw in this game or the people who were involved in the creation of this game deliberately programmed it so that there is no counter for particular a formation.

I will tell you why you feel that this formation has no counter. It is because you used the wrong approach each time you faced it. You may have won occasionally because the opponent used wrong orders while you had the quality advantage, and also there is the contribution of what you call the 'roll of dice'.

I can tell you for sure that there is one definite counter (guaranteed unless there is a fault or failure) for this formation and there is another decent one. I have tested those myself several times. The definite counter formation for this formation is not found on those tables of counter formations shared on this forum or elsewhere on the internet, but the decent one is found in some of those.

I can accept everything anyone saying, if there are enough proofs :rolleyes:

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Originally Posted by nikolgiorgos

I can accept everything anyone saying, if there are enough proofs :rolleyes:

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I left something in one of your FB account inbox (the tiger).