I have been wondering about if age is a factor when setting your first eleven?
does 11players with the age of 18 preforme weaker than a mix age team? Are experience a factor in top eleven?
are there any proof?
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I have been wondering about if age is a factor when setting your first eleven?
does 11players with the age of 18 preforme weaker than a mix age team? Are experience a factor in top eleven?
are there any proof?
No proof, maybe you'll be the first to discover?
Every player have it's own limits, and these are very lineal during all it's career. If it's bad bad is, if is determinant, determinant is.
age not a factor. maybe can try win with kids but not easy to buy all and good 18yo.
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Sure it metters, do not believe everything what you can read here and what people write you when be asked, it is a forum.Quote:
Originally Posted by freken1972
The fact is, and I can guarantee, as younger - they progress faster. In a matter of a stars.
Yes, training speeds are clear, see Al's power training guide. However in match play, nothing is proven.
this is not what he is asking. @Rev Dino
read again the question
No, age or experience (previous number of games) has no effect to the performance of a player.
but yes, the progress (gaining experience) of the younger usually is bigger than older players.
So it's a managerial matter and not coaching.
You must remember that it's not good to have an old 5* player to sell with a quality of 40 or 75 or 130.
All I can answer with is my own experience on the question. Don't take it as definitive proof, just a tested example of one top eleven manager.Quote:
Originally Posted by freken1972
I think the answer is yes, older players play better than younger players. I'll use my all-time leading scorer (Fernando Vercosa) as an example. He's currently 28 yrs old (133%) and has 630 career goals. His goal production really didn't shoot off the charts until he was 23 years old, when he had 93 goal season. He's had a pair of 96 goal seasons since then. Before that, with similar stats he was scoring roughly 50 goals/season. . This season he has 47 currently.
So the correlation in my case is between the ages of 23-27, he had 3 seasons over 90 goals. Before age 22, his most was like 53 goals.
Keep in mind skills drop 20% each level increase, and aren't gained evenly when training (known fact, thanks to Al). So it may be that skill balance becomes more favorable after some seasons, like strikers lose their defensive abilities...
So how about this?
Fact?Quote:
Originally Posted by Jeeves
Just not to misunderstand things here ...
we have two cases
scenario 1 : (which I think it was the first question of the thread)
- I bought two players for the same position.
One is young (a nordgen or an academy 5* player from another team) and the other one from the market, 26-27 y.o., with many games in his stats .
Has any of those two some disadvantage or advantage ?
- No (my personal experience always).
- Ok, I 'm in the market now and I can see a lot of players, young and old ones.
Should I go for the young ones only (as i have the money to buy then and they 'll grow faster in q than the olders) or it's good to buy also some older players to make a mixed age team ?
It doesn't make any difference. If some of them will perform good or bad, it depends from their "talent", internal programming, chemistry.
I had a couple of times a team (11th squad) full of nordgen and it did it just fine.
What can make a difference, is to keep from previous season some older players (but doesn't need to be to old, 21-22 y.o., playing for 3 seasons in the team it's ok) so not to build from the scratch.
With that way, the newcomers will find a more "steady" environment to be a part of that.
- If we buy 11 new young players, it may needs some time to find the chemistry of the team and adjust their skills (as the young ones have almost equal skills in the 3 categories).
Set more defensive drills (or skill points from the old version) to our defenders and some attacking skills to our attackers.
Also we must find which is maybe their favorite position or if they have the "talent" for some actions (like F-K, C-K, penalties).
So they need more training and maybe some extra friendlies but for sure they 'll give back later, with their extra gaining than the older.
The second scenario
it's what mac is saying.
The same player if performs better when he 'll become older.
I don't know. Of course a player by the seasons is changing (his stats from the first stats he had).
Also we know how to "use" him better.
But usually we sell the players who aren't good or special performers, maybe the next season (because they 're loosing 1*) and keep only few of them so I can't say if we have many cases to study.
For example mac is talking about his player Fernando Vercosa (lol) but how many others like him he has in his team ?
Those players are gems .
Actually after some testing, some young players can perform very well on their 1st year. for example, my DL, Nic Brannan (got it from auction), scored 10/10 in his debut (18 years old) but several others can only score 6 or max 8. For example no matter how many his stars are (7 at the moment), my power trained MC, Linderd Hassanudin, which I bought from Youth Academy, rarely scores 8 in any game.
So some U-21 players can perform well but mostly they are just average due to lack of experience