All is said in the title: I am less seeking opinions than facts.
The teams (I have 2 forthcoming opponents) being slightly better.
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All is said in the title: I am less seeking opinions than facts.
The teams (I have 2 forthcoming opponents) being slightly better.
The above system has been beaten by me using 3w-2dmc-2-2w-1.
3 defenders back arrows.
2 AM up arrows.
Next time I will encounter it I will keep proof and stats ;)
I was myself thinking of same defense/midfield but with 1AMC + 2 S to take advantge of this poor lonesome DC. But this is a violation to my own rule as it's not fact...
agree
it has same style with this
https://forum.topeleven.com/formatio...2n-3w-1-a.html
of course if you have better ST & AMC , you can use AMC +2ST instead of AML-AMR-ST
When oppo uses dmc I generally avoid attacking from middle. Also in so much attacking oppo system I would prefer to have same number or greater of midfielders so that they do not have much ball on their feet and keep attacking.
But this is an opinion and no fact as well :P
Gizzmo, in my opinion if you are the better side player by player, play with same formation.
i don't disagree, just maybe (in theory :p ), AMC+2ST can win 1DMC +1DCQuote:
When oppo uses dmc I generally avoid attacking from middle.
some times, a tip from as.manager can help (you know, like - our attacks from the flanks don't work, why don't you try smthing else)Quote:
I may start with one configuration and rapidly switch to the other if necessary
or observing the rates of oppo defenders also can give a tip for which side to attack.
2 days ago I played in assos against this formation,he was 6% better,beat him 6-1 away(2nd match he changed formation)
I played 3w222w1
Normal,mixed pass,short passing, counter on,low press,m2m,offside off,tackling normal
Down arrows both dmc and dc,up arrows aml/r
Aml scored all 6 goals
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Just wonder: are short passing and counter compatible ?
Definitely yes,many times I have seen oppo player losing the ball then 2 of my players changing short passes until one of them scores
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I beat a higher quality 3w-1-2n-3w-1 with a 4-3n-3 a couple seasons back in associations.
Gizzmo, have the match finished? I have an also upcoming match against this formation.
Already experienced players given their tips, I'd like to share mine too :)
3w-1-2-3wam-1
2 season before one manager use this formation and kick me out of the cup, I use 3w-2dmc-2-2wam-1, so fail (doesn't mean others can't win).
Last season same manager comes in league n CL both, not only that another manager on league also use same 3w-1-2-3wam-1, so 4 in league 2 in CL, total 6 matchs against that formation and 6 win, this time I use:
3w-1-3n-1-2 through the middle, normal
3w blue, amc red (amc was aml+amc+st)
That's all, have fun :)
Btw, all teams were same q. One more point, last match CL manager change his formation on second half, like instead of 3w he change to 3n def 3n-1-2-3w-1
I change right way too, send my amc to play as ST and send both ST to cover wings (aml/r). [mentality change too]
I have played the match, used the one that Gizzmo was thinking of, everything started well and I had 2 goals, suddenly the opponent scored 2 goals by penalties in about 60s and I changed my formation to that Nik advised, then scored one another goal. I was the home side, oppo manager was inactive, and the quality difference between us is 35%. Oppo manager will play with full effort in the second match, as he will see that I could not beat the pants off him even the quality difference is so considerable and I am active. Very hard 2nd leg is waiting for me, and my 2 key players will miss the 2nd leg. Here are the statistics;Attachment 77987
I played with short passes, , low press, normal tackling after I conceded 2 goals I changed it to long. After changing formation I changed the focus to mixed from through the middle.
I played mine too. Opted for Nik/Madflo's version 3W-2DMC-2MC-2WAM-1. But chose normal mentality/counter/mixed passing with no pressing. I was flying during the whole game (3-0 ahead) when I stupidly selected man to man (1st time ever I use this, probably last) only to concede 2 goals. Still, I have a huge advantage before second leg at home but I am p... off with these two goals: definitely deserved more a 4-1 than a 3-2 considering the stats.
Overall satisfied with the advices! Thx mates !
Cup final against the same tactic. Same settings for me: as in the previous match, fantastic start (2-0 after 8 mins). Then, slowed down a bit. 2-1 at half time, switched to high press: 4-2 after 75 mins. Then, striker injured (no more available, put a MC in and parked the bus). Then, direct red card to one of my DMC, free kick, 4-3 and a thrilling (happy) end. My conclusion, it works but might not be the ultimate counter.