How to beat 4-1-3w-1-1?

[czero]

Hi all.

Any experience with 4-1-3w-1-1?

The oppo is 115%Q. I'm 10% stronger, so not enough to make much difference.

I presume he plays counters.

Any suggestions appreciated.

[czero]

Noone really played against this formation??? 😱

[Ioannis Boulakas]

5-1DMC-2-2 through middle

[czero]

The game starts in 2h
Decided to go with 3w-1-2mc-3w-1 mixed, short passing.

[Vernie83]

The game starts in 2h
Decided to go with 3w-1-2mc-3w-1 mixed, short passing.

I would change your AMC for a 2nd DMC, but looks good. Good luck

[Vernie83]

5-1DMC-2-2 through middle

5 defenders, really? How would you play against 3AM+2 ST?

[Ioannis Boulakas]

5 defenders, really? How would you play against 3AM+2 ST?

its against one AMC and one ST.

[gizzmo]

its against one AMC and one ST.

The question was ironic. Why on earth use 5 def against 1 stirker ? 5 def are useless most of the times (easily destroyed with 2AML/R + 2 S) but even more in this case.

[czero]

Hi,

I lost 1:3.

The tactics:

Attachment 78257

Stats:

Attachment 78258

And players' ratings:

Attachment 78259

And finally the best one - the AM report:

Attachment 78262



I played with attacking mentality mixed, short passing, no counter, low press, zonal and offside on as I had 3 defenders and knew he plays counters.

I really do not understand the stats and ratings of this match.
Maybe, someone could explain, because I really lost sense

I have better ratings in overall.
His ST (got MOM) scored all three goals.
How come, my offensive line has so good ratings if I got only 3[!] shots on target...and why I have only 3[!] shots on target if his defensive line is so low rated?
This does not make sense to me.

I know he countered me, but how he did that, with such high passing completed (90%)?

It was our second game, the first game I lost 0:2.
He used same formation, but I adapted suggested counter: 3N-1-4-2 flat.

For me it's either his formation is such hard to beat even for a full 7* team or tactics you adapt make little or no difference...

Every game I keep my bonuses at 10%, players condition at 90% at least, morale high, wining bonus - 2nd level...

[ronnymvc]

I see a difference ... seems that your opo... used hard tackling, did you changed also to hard tackling during the game? I want to highlight this. I lost a lot of games with weaker teams, nordeus gives some advantage, and, I guess, it was also your case.
But what I have noticed, during last months, on top eleven is that when I face a team near my quality and it has 4def and 1 dmc I have to use 2st to win the game, if not, in most of the cases I lost or draw.