i employed the 3-4-1-2 formation, pressed whole pitch, short passing, attack down flanks and hard attacking and it worked against the 3DC, DML/DMR, 3MC and 2ST! won 2-0.. but alas was not enough to overcome the 1st leg 4-1 deficit. the thread on counter formations is really useful and i hope the experienced managers in the game will continue to contribute their great ideas and share their experience with us