Please help me to finally win against this formation :)

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He plays with
DL-DC-DR
DMC
ML-MC-MR
AMC
ST-ST

I have never defeated this formation... We both are equal in strength...

Please suggest me a formation and tactics to defeat this team... I play him in Cup tomorrow...

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Originally Posted by SujanVan23

Attachment 98066

He plays with
DL-DC-DR
DMC
ML-MC-MR
AMC
ST-ST

I have never defeated this formation... We both are equal in strength...

Please suggest me a formation and tactics to defeat this team... I play him in Cup tomorrow...

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4;5:1v on bith flanks or mixt press low on your pitch, counter on , normal mentality ... another formation is 3:1:4:2
Dc dc dc
Dmc
Ml mc mc mr
St. St
Normal mentality full pitch press
Good luck screen the results please...



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Originally Posted by gabuja.m

4;5:1v on bith flanks or mixt press low on your pitch, counter on , normal mentality ... another formation is 3:1:4:2
Dc dc dc
Dmc
Ml mc mc mr
St. St
Normal mentality full pitch press
Good luck screen the results please...



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I will go with 451v.. I will post the result..

Have u won any treble so far?

If someone suggest me another tactics and formation , I will consider that too.. This formation has troubled me a lot..

I also find teams with DL-DC-DR && DMC very tough..

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Originally Posted by SujanVan23

If someone suggest me another tactics and formation , I will consider that too.. This formation has troubled me a lot..

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another option if 4-5-1 V didn't work at 1st half, if you see one of their DC rating reduce below 6.5, change your winger become 3-ST and focus through the middle. forget to beat their fullback, just focus to beat their 2-DC

at 2nd half, try out attacking mentality, mixed pass through the middle

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make sure to put your DMC same position with opponent AMC,

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Originally Posted by adifairus

another option if 4-5-1 V didn't work at 1st half, if you see one of their DC rating reduce below 6.5, change your winger become 3-ST and focus through the middle. forget to beat their fullback, just focus to beat their 2-DC

at 2nd half, try out attacking mentality, mixed pass through the middle

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make sure to put your DMC same position with opponent AMC,

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My AML/AMR cant play ST .. Should I bring a ST from sub instead?

+ Should I start with Normal mentality with counter attack or dont do counter attacks?

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Originally Posted by SujanVan23

If someone suggest me another tactics and formation , I will consider that too.. This formation has troubled me a lot..

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if you do your reading here you'll find that list of counter-formations... and also veteran managers saying it's not fool-proof, not so important any more, even opinions that formation matters very little. do your own tests in friendly games with similar Q ratio.

I'm using your opponent's formation, a lot. but im low level and rarely have tough enough opponents to really learn anything. so far, no 4-5-1 worked against my teams. what did i had trouble with is 4-4-2 with wingers slightly forward, 4-4-2 ND and 4-1-4-1

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Originally Posted by sasha m

if you do your reading here you'll find that list of counter-formations... and also veteran managers saying it's not fool-proof, not so important any more, even opinions that formation matters very little. do your own tests in friendly games with similar Q ratio.

I'm using your opponent's formation, a lot. but im low level and rarely have tough enough opponents to really learn anything. so far, no 4-5-1 worked against my teams. what did i had trouble with is 4-4-2 with wingers slightly forward, 4-4-2 ND and 4-1-4-1

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I always struggle against an active team with aggressive formation... They have just one DC one MC but they win a lot.. Last season one guy with same formation like above photo won the league with 70+ points.. I lost both legs.. 41221 didnt work at all.. So I have tough time against these teams..

I will post my result today.. I face same team in league today and later on in Cup too.. We both are 110%..

Match is over.. I won 2-0.. But this was tough.. As I had lost against this 3W-1-3W-1-2 with 41221 I wanted to try something different ..

Couple of suggestions above included 433 && 41212 narrow so I went with something like that.. 41212 but my AMC went as high as possible to act like 433.. Started with Normal , short passing, through middle.. Low pressing.. Zonal.. Counter off.. Offside trap off..

The opponent only had 1 DC but the HT was goal less.. His DMC was immense.. His DL/DR also kept going above 8 in ratings && one of my ST went below 6.5..

After 75 minutes I changed my formation.. Removed DMC and a MC to bring ML as well as MR.. So new formation was like 4312.. ML / MR were almost like MC.. MC almost like DMC .. Pulling down AMC below near MC zone.. Attacking high press through middle mix passing.. Counter off.. Zonal.. Offside trap on..

After 81 minutes I scored 2 goals both were scored by DR and DL..

AlthoughI had lot of possession I almost dropped points.. Winner came late and both were by DR/DL.. I dont know how to analyze this match.. I was sweating.. Haha..

Now after 4 hours I play him again in Cup.. Maybe I should try 41221? I am not sure.. Opponent is as strong as me so I cant afford to make mistakes .. Attachment 98100

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Originally Posted by SujanVan23

I will go with 451v.. I will post the result..

Have u won any treble so far?

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If you looking for many goals try second team 3:1:4:2 , i won every time against this formation of your oponent


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Originally Posted by gabuja.m

If you looking for many goals try second team 3:1:4:2 , i won every time against this formation of your oponent


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Can u explain abt this formation little more.... Are 3 DC or DL DC DR ? Also 1 DMC and ML M MC MR?

I drew 0-0 in Cup match..

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Originally Posted by Agger99

Can u explain abt this formation little more.... Are 3 DC or DL DC DR ? Also 1 DMC and ML M MC MR?

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Dc dc dc
Dmc
Ml mc mc mr
St st
Go high press bcs youre have one more mc than him

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