this thread used to be about countering the 4-1-2-1-2 narrow diamond (aka 4-4-2 ND).... why are you guys talking about loads of other tactics in here? Start a new thread for that please
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this thread used to be about countering the 4-1-2-1-2 narrow diamond (aka 4-4-2 ND).... why are you guys talking about loads of other tactics in here? Start a new thread for that please
I'm gonna try 3-1-4-2 against 4-1-2-1-2 ND, but need advice about my defenders. Which option is better - DL-DC-DR or DC-DC-DC?
DC-DC-DC, never use wide against 2 striker :)Quote:
Originally Posted by Booster
today i will face opponent using 4-1-2-1-2 in Champions league. we are same level but his team more better. his team quality is 47, mine only 40.7...i will try this suggestion formation (4-1DMC-3N-2 ).soon i will post result here :)
just lost 3-1....not luck today...huhuhuhu :(Quote:
Originally Posted by Sniperz
Sniperz think about it from a pragmatic stand point. He is using the middle to attack and what you just did was to defend the middle but you also used it to attack. Wouldn't it have been better to have gone offensively down the flanks? Not that this game always works in this way though.
Yeah, I did the same selection before your reply, but anyway I won 3-0. Thanks for the help, mate. :cool:Quote:
Originally Posted by fadhul17
i always use 3-1-4-2, this my formation since i was begginer until i won the in the league...
i always use a motivated 4141 .. and I always win unless he is way too strong than me
I use 3-5-2 . With my 2nd team i won in the final of the CL 5:1 against ND.
I only plays with the hated 4-1-2-1-2NarrowDiamond but other mother*****r plays with this incomprehensible formation
---ST-----ST
AML---AMC---
-----------ML
-----DMC-----
DL--DC--DC--DR
And won all the matches!!! the b*stard is league's BICHAMPION! Why god why???!!! why I lose all the championships???!!! FFFUUUU.
¿por que la vida tiene que ser tan dura? - YouTube
Posts like the one above amuse me greatly.
Also: non-symmetric formations are not necessarily bad.
hi everyone. I have a very important match tommorow. I'm topping the league and tommorow i face the guy at the second place
Attachment 9456 The guy on the left is me and on the right is him. Okay! THis guy play 4-1-2-1 narrow diamond and he is extremely strong. I play 4-5-1 V style. This is the guy's last match [ATTACH=CONFIG]9457 [/ATTACH]Attachment 9458 How i can deal with him now? Thx first
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how to beat this formation ...
can anyone help me plz
Absolute tripe of a formation lost 3 1 to a weaker team I had full energy full morale and in the previous meeting I won 1 0 using the 451v now I'm two places off 1st place
you have a dmc which blocks his amc ...good idea...I will use it tomorrow.. Thanks for your tip
my favorite formation now :)
Thanks mate. Allowed me to win against a much stronger team. I juste made a slight change. I played with MR and ML instead of two MCs.
i have the same problem, how to counter a 4-1-2-1-2 much stronger than me?
my players are all 4 star while their defenders and middlers are 5 star. Only his strikers are 3/2 stars... My overall quality is 18,9 while his squad is 21.
Can i do something anyway with the suggested 3-1-4-2?
I lose. Probably beacuse i was too weak
A game from my league. The 4-1-2-1-2 is in 5 points stronger. Worth a thought:
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Counter Formation Available : 4-3N-2(AML/AMR)-1
Good luck !!!!
you can use hard defending if your opponent is better than you or hard attacking
i agree :)
F U all who told to use 3-1-4-2 against 4-4-2ND1 i loose 2-0 without a chance...so better keep yr mouth shut and stop givin such crappy advises
4-4-2 works well against 4-1-2-1-2ND, my bro loss 3-1 (AFAIR, around these numbers) when he use 4-1-2-1-2ND vs 4-4-2 on his League Match
Yeah...4-4-2 is hard to beat with any formation as there is no effective counter for it.
Im leading my league using 4-1-2-1-2 ND this season and yesterday lost @ home 0-3 against a weaker 4-1-3W-2.
Every month there's an update to the game. I believe they (un)balance teams so they can keep the game unpredictable. What fun would it be if you could win just by following the charts?
u have to buy a player who can play as a ml/aml and one mr/amr so u can easy change from 4-1-4-1 (normal, counter) to 4-5-1 V style...
also u can change very quick to a 3-1-4-2 (change st for a dl/dr) or 3-5-2 V style... u just have to buy also a player who can change from outside defender to inside defender dl/dc oder dr/dc... then you are so flexible to change your formation in a match... i have also a dmc/dc... so if you are winning against a "bigger" team u can switch to 5 defenders...
...and i never spend one dollar or euro for token in my life... :) its easy if you know which time u have to buy players...
if your opponent got a amc, u ever have to put a dmc,... if he dont got a dmc u have to put a amc... if he have no man on the outside midfield (like 4-1-3n-2 or 4-1-2-1-2 narrow) then u have to play always over the wings...
this is my startformation in most games, if the opponent just have one st and one amc i play with 3 dc and 2 striker!
for this 4-1-4-1 i use normal mentality, both flanks, own half, normal takling, mixed passing, zonal marking, counter, no offside!
-------------st--------------
-----------------------------
ml/aml----mc----mc----mr/amr
-----------dmc/dc-----------
dl/dc-----dc-----dc-----dr/dc
this is my start formation this season to the most games, and im first in the league (level 11, 14 games, 8 points before 2nd, no match loose) also championsleague im in the 1/8 final win the first game away 0-3 and in the cup 1/4 final win the homegame also 3-0...
i hope for the tripple and i will be proud because i trust u i never buy any token... :) im strong (68,5) and the age is by 23,5...
good luck ;)
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The suggested counter for ND in this thread is a similar counter that I occasionally use against the ND. It's similar, because instead of using a DMC, put that player in central defence so you have a 5-3-2, which I normally set defensive counter & mixed passing/focus.
Have not lost to a ND using this formation to date.
Note to hotheads: Just because a suggested counter doesn't work doesn't mean it's crap.
Aside, as FC1879 says, it is always good to buy AML/ML or DC/DL or DC/DMC if you play a flexible formation like 4-4-2, 4-1-4-1, 3-1-4-2 etc. Takes less substitution or even zero.
Fadhul is indonesian i guess. Just like me.
Two of my 4 league games so far this season, I've used 451v vs the narrow diamond and won both games comfortably.
U guys are funy, talking about which formation beats another, it doesnt make a difference in football, u can play any formation and win s long as ur team is superior. I have 11 scout player as long as u dont have a better team u wont win and i won't win if my oponent has 7 star player. Only the player skills matter in the game of football, if u have messi o ronaldo dont tnink about formation haha its hilarious.... And by the way an so called ilegal formation doesnt mean u beat them, if he has better players u still get ass kicked..
*whispers* Chill, it's not real. Don't spamQuote:
Originally Posted by Peter Renn
Pls orders and arrows! Thank you bro!:)Quote:
Originally Posted by Kleosfc
i dont think that tactic works with others but hey thanks for the tip...
counter formations do the trick sometimes but actually its easy to read opponents formation... shud see your opponent's player stats/ablity...how many assist...scores??? ... then comes the formation...i would suggest if you are playing a 'narrow diamond' 4 1 4 1, 4 3n 2aml/amr/ 1.... the ND lack of flanks...if your opponent stat are higher red arrow on ml mr or aml amr ...also add red arrow on dr dl... if your opponent player mc is a killer stat in scoring (see their stat) blue on 2 dc's ... i always knock them out with 4 5 1 flat mc (middle blue arrow) ...
orders hard attacking, mix pass, down the flanks, own half, zonal , force counter.... but hey remember they have these so called RNG lol...no matter how good you are you will have 'bad day' achievement he he he
well i got to say thats the fact lol ...money talks...
its true what peter said... well you still can kick ass in cup match though...
the point is if you dont want to spend in tokens....all you need to do is to log in, manage, cure the injuries....see the market.... update ur players... sell the 30's age players... DONE.... im sure youll have plenty of trophies collected ;)
hi,what about short pass,and trouth in the middle,???? tmrw important match,thanxQuote:
Originally Posted by Der Panzer
i suggest 3-2(DMR,DML)-3(MC)-2 for feat 451V style
orders:
mentality :hard defending
focus passing :mixed
pressing :own half
tackle :hard
pass :long
marking :zonal
use counter att
not use offside trap
good luck
Is it just me or 4-4-2 classic became to counter formation for narrowD?
Just u, ND works very well vs 442....Quote:
Originally Posted by jacks
