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I messed up big time playing around with different formations ahead of a game, my phone died and I ended up playing my DL as goalkeeper in CL quarterfinal loosing 4-1. So I need good advice beating him good in the return tomorrow.
He is playing:
----st----
aml-amc-amr
Mc-mc
dl-dc-dc-dr
Same exact skill-level on our teams, I do have home advantage though.
No one seems to have a good idea yet. My tactic is probably gonna be 4-1-4-1 flat super aggressive, hard tackling, both flanks, zonal marking, red arrows on DL DR MR ML. If anyone has a better idea let me please know.
If he sees that coming, probably with a defensive + counterattack strategy will be able to get your back easily. Be careful with the arrows and mentality.
He has a gaping hole right up the middle so your plan of attack should be obvious. Why would you even think of attacking his flanks? Go up the middle and his DL/DR are effectively useless.Quote:
Originally Posted by FCmonster
At minimum you want a central DC and a DMC to cover his central attackers. 2 MCs along with the DMC will give you numerical advantage and thus possession advantage at midfield.
That leaves you with 4 players to place, and at least 2 of them must be defenders and at least 2 (maybe the same 2) must be on the flanks. Look at his past games to get a handle on his AML & AMR (and check his MCs as well) but you can probably bet he's playing hard attacking with red arrows on the AMs. If you've got solid defenders, you can get by with 3 DCs and use your remaining two slots at MR/ML with blue arrows to help cover his flankers, or use DML/DMR if you've got them.
I'm pretty new to this game razz so I don't know the mechanics that good, hence I need help.
I have pretty good DCs so should I be using this:
St
Amc
ml-mc-mc-mr
Dmc
dc-dc-dc
Or switch amc to st?
Or something completely else?
Orders: attack middle, super offense, press own half, zonal marking, short pass, hard tackling
press whole pitch. dont go full attacking.
Attachment 7077Ok, I'll go for that then. Saw now that his current formation is a weird backup with a lot of his weaker players, hopefully he keeps it.
His current formation is 4-5-1 V but switched one mc to mr (going to counter with 4-1-3w-1-1 if it remains when 10m to kickoff)
I use this tactic 4-2-3-1 sometimes.I disagree with Raz for that,DL/DR are useless.They are very useful for attacking.With red arrows and attacking from the flanks they dominate with AML/AMC/AMR...My MC's are with blue arrows to fill the holes in the middle pitch.So if this guy is using the same mentality,if you attack him from the middle,he will stop your attack and beat you very bad.I agree with you about 4-5-1 V style.
I really like all of your input guys, it really helps me to understand the tactics better. He has now unfortunately changed his weird 4-5-1 formation to a standard 4-5-1V. Since I have to beat him by at least 3-0 and 4-5-1V doesn't have any real weakness the only idea I have is to exploit where he has weak players. Perhaps 4-2-2w-2 and attack his flanks?? Please come with input as the game is four hours away.
His teamAttachment 7081
My team Attachment 7082
4-2-2-2 hexagon is not too good against 4-5-1 V style.I usually play with 4-5-1 V style and it's easy for me to win against hexagon.I suggest you to play with 4-3N-1-2.With three MC's and one AMC.There is no logic to counter 4-5-1 V style but when I play with V style formation I see difficult against this formation.Press him in whole pitch.Quote:
Originally Posted by FCmonster
ok, will try that, any suggestions when it comes to orders besides pressing whole pitch?
great advice, any tips on orders?
attacking (to overcome the -3 goal difference), probably push on tackling (unless he has a specialist to take advantage of your fouls).
4-5-1 Flat with flanks redarrows
i should play again his formation
Greetings Buster Keaton
3-0 and going to CL semifinal. Thanks for all the help guys!
what did you play after all?
He ended up starting with 4-5-1V after changing formation three times before kickoff. I played 4-3N-1-2 attacking, hard tackle, mixed pass, play flanks(unintentionally) press whole pitch, no offside or counter. Scored with st, amc and mc. Won on away goal 4-1 3-0.
FC, read the tutorial
'Justdomes' guide of being successfull Manager
especially the part on tactics and marking. Note also, that per Nordeus, arrows are the equivalent of moving the player's position forward or backward on the pitch. So an MR with blue arrows ~= a DMR with no arrows, and MR with red arrows ~= an AMR.
Forget all that use x formation against y stuff. Build your formation and tactics to stop your opponent and exploit his weaknesses.
Second thing to remember is that most of these guys have one mentality: throw everything they have at attacking.
I've won my league every season I've competed, done pretty well at CL, and fair at Cup (I've never won cup, usually competing against teams 2-3 levels above me). I typically play defensive/counterattack and usually lead league in goals. I very rarely play more than 1 striker. I have never bought tokens. Just to give you an idea where I'm coming from on this.
Justdome's guide was invaluable to me in figuring out how to set up formations, and usually after i set my defence and my attack, leaves me 2 players to position according to my tactics, which gives me quite a bit of flexibility. Further, with that understanding you'll know how to adapt your formation during a match. My style may not be comfortable to you, but with the formational understanding as a foundation, you can adjust your tactics to suit your team and/or your own style.
Oh, yeah, always remember this is a computer game of probability. It's not futbol. It's not even really a simulation of futbol. It's a probability program dressed in futbol clothes.
Very good and interesting post Razz. I'm doing really good in my second season and hopefully it'll continue onwards(a couple of friends started about the same time and we have an internal competition). Insomnia plus your help and a scout or two in the beginning of next season makes it a lot easier to understand this game.
I'm not gonna buy any tokens but download freebies to compete with the ones that do.
Been using the tactic counter sticky for the last couple of days and have had great success but your DL+arrow=Dml input will help me a lot to use my best players in positions that suits them better aswell as using a good formation. Read a couple of guides including Justdomes but will read it a lot more times.
