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Hi everyone! :)
Why do we need tokens for signing U-21 players from our teams? Should'nt that be for free?
I mean, we are all waitimg for those players fo 20 days and when they finnaly show up we need tokens for singing them.
If they are players from our school, I think that singing them should be free because there is no point on bilding youth facilities if we cannot use those young players they produce. I think that somethig should be done about that. :)
Best regards ;)
You're right =) I support that idea =)
Yes,we all want that and we have numerous threads about this but Nordeus doesn't really care about our interests
Sorry man, I'm new here...but just frustrated with some unreal features in this game. Jebi ga! ;)
Please use search, we already talked about this so many times before.
PS: I support this idea.
Nordeus only see $
Hy all,
Today gonna out 2 players from accademy, one quality 15 for free and the other one quality 28 for 24 tokens is too much i think nordeus gonna think a little better on that question.
The quality of U21 most be the same of scout players :)
Ps: Support the idea too.
i support the idea too...
I agree to
i support the idea too
We all want that, that already been discussed. But the point is, Nordeus can't change this for two reasons :
1/ Money talk.
2/ Unfair for players who bought them.
They will never make tokens this way because no1 really spends 15+ tokens on a decent young player that is way behind the team. They should input hiring scouts as staff or build youth camps in different regions and you get a judgement on certain youth and invest in them then. Gives us a new style of playing home grown vs transfer market...West Ham vs Chelsea. Imagine you spend 20 tokens on a youth and 1 season later he emerges as 18yo 5* SA. Or spend 15 tokens and you get 4 star player playing 2 different positions...etc. Hell, let them rob us once in awhile and say the player was a flop. Sure you'll be mad but you'll invest again and its a fun way to play the game as well and that's only way Nordeous can profit from the U-21 system.
I will disagree with that common idea regarding U21. I usual sign the players of U21, for my point of view are the best value for money players. Instead of fighting in transfers to get a player which later i might find that he is crap, I prefer the safe way of U21, aged 18 players, who usually are the best players of my team, if i am lacking a role or i see that someone worth it, i might power training him in the beginning in order to keep him many seasons. I prefer expencive good players than carbidge in my team which in one or 2 seasons i will sell them again and in the long run i would have paid the same amount of tokens. PS.of course i am discussing about the talented player, not the other one. I am saying that not because i want to pay tokens but i believe that if they come for free they are not going to be gifted as talented players.
+1 for your idea ... let`s make us heard !
i don´t like this idea. the fact that players are from your academy and they are young doesn´t meen that they don´t need any tokens. Of course they do. What should they live from ? How would you like if someone would tell you that you can work for us but you don´t need any money bacause you are from our company. you would leave. so that is no wonder that these players aer leaveing too.
they are young and they need to learn how to manage all funds they get and all our tokens can be for them very important lesson.
Don´t ruin them their lifes, give them some tokens. it is not to much for such a young players with a future.
it depends your team quality. if you have an average 4-5 star team and the young player is close to your team average quality then i agree with you. furthermore i have a very difficult server to buy good players so paying 20 tokens for the youth is a good deal. but my team quality is close to 6 stars. what the hell do i need a player 10 quality points lower than my team average? and pay almost 20 tokens? i have signed my 4star youth only 2 times because i realy needed a player in his position and because he was close to become 5 star. all the other times it's just a crap player that i kick him out without second thought.Quote:
Originally Posted by Maxtax
Dude...get serious, please! Those players are imagined and they DON'T LIVE their lifes! ;) And where the hell did you saw that some club pays for their own players same, or twice bigger amount of money that could be payed for star player!? it just doesn't make sence! ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by unkulunkulu
Didn't we spent our time and money building u21 buildings? And don't we have to wait a full month for new players income? Then I don't understand why we should spend any token in young players.
then you will never unlcok any U-21 feautures in this game, once you will reach level 30
yes you can, i'm level 52 and i just unlocked the U21 girls team with 2,345 tokens which I saved up by watching videos. Just signed a 13 year old girl today! Costs me 30 tokens but she's worth it. She's fast, not that skillful but she's got all the dirty tricks up her sleeves, sorta like the female version of Sergio Busquets. She's a pretty little German girl named Unkulunkulu and she's willing to cut her hair short disguise as a boy to play for the boy's team. Only problem is that she's requests to wear number 00 which the FA has not approved. hmmm...how come Hamsik opens his mouth like he's ready to blow?Quote:
Originally Posted by unkulunkulu
i don't really support this idea now :)
you can read my thoughts on general discussions
and i think nordeus won't approve this. why?
well, one of many reasons is, if you get those two players for FREE, then you get an equivalent amount of money which is two or three times prize money of your champions league title or can also be five times the cost of building a new stadium at your current level. and you get that for FREE in every 20 days. how can it be possible that nordeus approve that idea?
i don't mind to pay the 24 tokens (i think that's the maximum) as far as the player is a good one. i almost never sign him cause he is minimum 6-7 quality points lower than my teams average. but they should give us a 5 star youth or a player equal to the teams average. i am willing to pay not only 24 but 50 tokens for a youth who has my average quality (a little lower than scout). the way the youth academy works until now is totaly useless to high quality teams.Quote:
Originally Posted by Joshiko
nope. nordeus also won't like this idea. if they give you 5 star youngster every 20 days for 50 tokens, it's the same as they give you a player with higher quality than scout and also less price. since you sign an 18 yo player here. after 4 seasons, he can get additional 3 stars (equivalent to 8 stars at 22 yo, which is the youngest age you can find on scout list players). and guess what? you sign him every 20 days with 50 tokens and without paying money? of course they won't approve this ideaQuote:
Originally Posted by gkassimis
this academy system is a compromise. you cannot get every good thing packed in one option. there's always trade-off, pros and cons..
The amount of tokens should depend on what year league your playing in.
If your year 1-3 5 tokens
year 3-5 10 tokens and so on
What a "nice idea", so according that, in my level they will cost 55 tokens. Except if you are doubling the figures so they will cost 2560 tokens thanks for supporting those who are a bit long around!:rolleyes:Quote:
Originally Posted by Lexusboy
Everyone just want things for free. Like I said before, if you don't have the resources work harder with surveys and transfers. even though I buy tokens I don't always win. And even I buy tokens I still work hard to win every game no matter who's yah opponent. Here's a thought! Sign that crappy 3 star youngster who don't cost tokens, use 25 tokens buy green boosters and power train him.
I'm sure he be a 5 star after power train and few games.
Attachment 2874 <=== even if i have 221 tokens this player worth 5 or less tokens for me !
~ As you all can see it asks for 24 tokens !
~ As you all know with 24 tokens i buy two or more gk with better quality same age and maybe with SA too !
~ As you all know any idiot can comment about how youth academy should be , but how can you say it`s ok when the youth is useless ... if they remove it 100% is even better because they generate players in auctions anyway !
Cannot be true what i am reading on this tread !
since nordeus don`t like the idea to let them both free ... they should make this change :
Youth players should be : one for free and one with price between 1 ~ 10 tokens & money that player value !
You guys think it's better sign the less quality one and power train him with 24 tokens investment he be better than the token dude? not gona do it, just wondering...
Youth players aren't good enough I have the best academy but there still never good enough to get in my team, why don't they have special abilities when you have to pay 24 tokens for the best one
Ro Edu, I am one of the "idiots" you are mentioning, i dont want to convince anyone for anything , i dont care what anyone does thats why i am in that and the old forum for 2 years and i rarelly write, i am just say my opinion, also i am not dicussing if U21 price is high or low. I also agree that occasionaly some of them should have SA and some to be better quality but as an idiot who reached L25 without loosing a single season i am giving u an advise dont stick so much in Quality and SA (I am not saying that they are not considerably count), but equally counts the long term performance of a player which i usually found in U21 players(usually in the one who costs 24t). Its a matter of choice relax and enjoy the game no one forces you to buy them its just an option to you. I sure dont have or had teams full of players from U21, I evenly distribute players from transfer, scout list, U21, even direct transfer recently where i bought a very expencive but superb young player.
What do you suggest I do with a player I pay 3x value because of ridicoulous token war and trains slow as hell who i just bought near end of seas and 23 years old already...How can I make the best out of the bugger?Quote:
Originally Posted by Maxtax
I also many times druged my self in that war. In that case it depends, if i didnt have another one for the role and didnt have tokens to replace him i would keep him until have the opportunity to replace him(in many cases slow trainers are performing well), if i can replace him or have another one for the role i would puting him in transfer market the first days of new season, anyway he would be the first to go out of the team, in no way i would invest on him either with power training or playing him a lot. If you are short of tokens try to buy the last days of the season a 18-19 aged player, prefer those that game engine produce.
+1 I agree.
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