please read and understand that...you got to fix this game , some advices.

[Joseph P Brenner]

Hello everyone ,
i dont understand this game , i buy tokens , i train my players alot , hiring a scout trainer , putting the bonus during the game and only 0-0 againts the last place (14th)
this things put you off , you just want to quit playing this game
i buy every season 1000 tokens and cant even finished first...
and the guy who is in the last place , doesnt watch his games , probably with no moral , and he can finished 0-0???!
i suggest to who it may concern , please fix your engine , guy who doesnt watch his games for at least 5 times he will get penalty (such as at least 2 goals againts him...)
i feel like ive been cheated by top11
my team is better than anybody in my league and it cant win the guy who is in the last place???
either you gonna fix this engine thingo , or more and more people and fans will leave you guys , i am that close to leave this game after 4 consecutive years and paying alot...
please take it to your consideration .
i got some advices for you.
1 guy who not watching the game for at least 5 match will be lost...
2 every manager who support his team friends will get one rest or moral for each game he is supporting.
3 scout will be update every day and the players will be from the age of 18 to 22 , why i need to pay 59 tokens for 24 years old player that even not close to 7 stars...
4 for those who playing illegal , will be get some punishment such as willget red card or penalties againts them...
5 opportunities for manager to pick the hour of his home games on preseason ...(why do i need to spend every season 20 tokens for moving my games to late hour???)
i got loads of suggestions for you
but i dont know if anyone listening out there...
please take it to your consideration , loads of managers will leave if you gonna make the game unfair...
God bless you all and thanks in advance.

[Tactician]

I understand. Here is what I have to say.

1. Stop buying so much tokens. When you invest so much, there is more pressure on you to get the results that you want. While this might appear to be just a virtual game, it might affect your morale in real life.

2. Quality is only one of the factors that affect the outcomes. Tactics is another, and there are suspected hidden effects (percentage efficiency, form, fixed matches and so on). What you may see visually in terms of quality might not be what there is actually. There is a sort of illusion.

3. There are some games that appear that their outcomes have been fixed or pre-determined. For instance, for a specific game, you will lose or get a draw, but you will not win no matter what you do, unless you have extreme superiority in quality (as high as around 180% or above). This may be the case for a knock-out round too, where you are likely to be knocked-out no matter what you do as manager.

4. This game contains flaws, and also some of the functioning of this game has no football sense.

5. This game functions a lot like a casino game. Its main aim is to make money out of people due to their weaknesses or imperfections. This include the want to win, addiction and so on.

I have already quitted this game once after having been gutted with all the 'nonsense' that have occurred last year (2015). I came back after the I noticed that there is a new version. Some bad things, some of which are not acceptable are still there though.

Concerning your 0-0 draw, take into consideration that you cannot always win.

[Joseph P Brenner]

Thanks mate.
i guess its not fair game like i thought...

[cookizzz]

Hello everyone ,
i dont understand this game , i buy tokens , i train my players alot , hiring a scout trainer , putting the bonus during the game and only 0-0 againts the last place (14th)
this things put you off , you just want to quit playing this game
i buy every season 1000 tokens and cant even finished first...
and the guy who is in the last place , doesnt watch his games , probably with no moral , and he can finished 0-0???!
i suggest to who it may concern , please fix your engine , guy who doesnt watch his games for at least 5 times he will get penalty (such as at least 2 goals againts him...)
i feel like ive been cheated by top11
my team is better than anybody in my league and it cant win the guy who is in the last place???
either you gonna fix this engine thingo , or more and more people and fans will leave you guys , i am that close to leave this game after 4 consecutive years and paying alot...

According to your descriptions, I believe your team is higher in quality than other teams, but it is not necessarily "better than anybody" in your league. Other than quality, attending matches, and morale, there are other aspects like tactics and player form are required to be managed. Certainly a higher quality team should have better chance to win, but this is not guaranteed.

As league drawing is highly influenced by team average player qualities now, buying tokens in order to improve team quality is no longer a simple effective way to improve team performance. If a team is higher in quality, your league opponents are higher in quality too. So tokens can help to build a beautiful 7/8/9/10 star teams with multiple role players but the team likely meets other beautiful teams in same league. If a team buy tokens to improve quality, they likely need to buy tokens in every season to maintain same competitiveness (assuming no manipulation of team quality to receive better draws)

Low quality teams like 2 or 3 star average quality team may compete with 2 or 3 star average quality teams in league. If they can manage to maintain this quality level in every season, they may have long term success even if they are considered low in average quality.

I don't buy tokens. I only use auction market to buy players. I always think managing team quality, not simple improving quality, is key to ensure long term success. In the past, my teams can naturally maintain 5 star throughout every season without buying tokens. Since new version implemented, teams got 6% instead of 5% condition in every 3 hours. The increase in condition recovery accelerate player improvement. This also upset my balance that my relative team quality in terms of stars increased in every season. When most of my players start a season with quality close to 6 star, I cannot improve my team quality with my resources available. I cannot repeat my old cycle to improve my teams. So, for my case, my teams are more difficult to compete now because some of opponents still have way to improve.

please take it to your consideration .
i got some advices for you.
1 guy who not watching the game for at least 5 match will be lost...
2 every manager who support his team friends will get one rest or moral for each game he is supporting.
3 scout will be update every day and the players will be from the age of 18 to 22 , why i need to pay 59 tokens for 24 years old player that even not close to 7 stars...
4 for those who playing illegal , will be get some punishment such as willget red card or penalties againts them...
5 opportunities for manager to pick the hour of his home games on preseason ...(why do i need to spend every season 20 tokens for moving my games to late hour???)
i got loads of suggestions for you
but i dont know if anyone listening out there...
please take it to your consideration , loads of managers will leave if you gonna make the game unfair...
God bless you all and thanks in advance.

1. In my experience, loses may upset team form which is not easy to recover. So teams will likely suffer worse results in following matches.
2. As I understand, supporting managers may receive gifts from teams they supported. But they are restricted to receive maximum 1 gift of same type per day.
5. I like this suggestion. This is a hot one which have been proposed by many managers before. At present, time zone of managers is considered to arrange fixture schedule. Instead of using time zones, I have proposed T11 to set several time windows and allow managers to select themselves.

[bluexcaliber]

I like your response, Cookiezzz - very thoughtful, and very true

[woopypooky]

i guess there is some hidden penalty for token buyers. the more tokens u buys u get more negative penalties.

me at level 28 now. for level 25,26,27 i finished 1st. 3 league in a row. Only the champions league eludes me.

So this new season level 28, i go buy 80 tokens pack. And now after 8 games, i only get 8 points. In 9th place. Last season i only lost once.

[Gabez Teh]

@woopypooky:

I smell Conspiracy theory in your post But here is my interesting fact: if you looking at my signature you can easily spot i have many-many trophies... And i bet immediately you say: ehh another token buyer... The fact is i bought a cheap starter pack at season 1 and i bought 100-100 tokens in my season 2, end of (true) story

hmmm

ps: i'm considering to keep my continuously farmed green packs (recently limited by engine to daily 30) for the "last level" read Gert's post! i would like to play with a real powerful squad but i guess i have to wait 2-3 years until i "climb my server" Is it worthy? i don't know, maybe or maybe not... If i choose my keeping theory well i have to abdicate my actual powertraining methods (i always keep my squad at strong 6*-low7* for challenging the actual treble)