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The punishment can take one or more faces
A- Deduction of points from league competition which leads to losing ranks and sometimes relegation
B- Deduction of tokens and/ or money
Another drastic suggestion
C- Making the manager who doesn't attend a match lose 3-0 and if both managers didn't show up the match result ends by 0-0
are you crazy what if a manager had no internet connectionQuote:
Originally Posted by USARABAT
this is an online game. if you don't have internet in kurdistan , go for an offline game
Sincerely are you serious ??Quote:
Originally Posted by USARABAT
B and C are...crazy
Relegation can be a solution but if only deserved like an abbandoned team
yes I am serious , this is an online game and it's a management game ... how come I still play against managers who are absent and watch games between absent managers ?
what ?
lol
The opposite is right.
To reward managers who are watching their games.
For example, it's not acceptable to have 65/70 vs 35/30 ball possession, with same or better % at passing but the same number of shots or corners :p
Game mechanics should "read" that.
why don't you like the concept of punishing the absent managers ? in real football, the team who fails to show up lose 3-0 ...
the current situation of playing between online vs offline manager is not exciting / boring / sometimes unfair ... depends on ...
What do you suggest to reward the manager who attends his game ? I hope you have something interesting :D
ye, this is like when I said, -why the club don't sack you if you lose too much games?... seems legit. lolQuote:
Originally Posted by USARABAT
A - deduction in league points or relegation will just make tanker happierQuote:
Originally Posted by USARABAT
B - deduction of token/money seems logic because manager who don't always attend the match shows uncommitted to the club and his salary should be deducted in term of token/money
C - lose the match will just make tanker happier, and let's don't change in the rule of football itself, lost 3-0 only applied if the squad don't get enough player, let keep it that way
option B still little crazy because the present of active manager still depends on the match schedule, it still quite difficult especially for away match that we can't reschedule. even the home match need token to reschedule.
i don't have any idea what is the best way to punish or to reward manager for attending, there is moral booster as reward, but seems not so interesting
by the way, should we punished them? or just encourage them to attend?
maybe a flipping cards that we can choose only 1 of 3 cards, or choose only 2 of 5 cards after the match we attended? and the reward is not limited to booster only, depends on our luck, it can be skill++, it can be SA that we can give to any player we want if we got that SA card........ token.. etc
no troll results :pQuote:
What do you suggest to reward the manager who attends his game ? I hope you have something interesting
maybe not interesting but useful :o
OFF TOPIC comment : I am in level 37 now and I came to a belief that what is called "troll" result or unsatisfactory result represent no more than 5% of all games results if you were a good trainer and have deep awareness of the game ... I run three teams in three different mid-levels and I don't remember losing a game that I should have won ...
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I am going to abandon this team next season and u can see the amount of tokens I have and my result s... but i am doing so coz the new training system made things ridiculous and it's no more fun to guess which training works and which not and I don't find it positive to train dark skills ...
The best way is to punish lack of training, that has always been my main concern for abandoned teams. If a manager takes care of his team daily but does not have the time to watch all matches is something understandable and I don't think should be punished.
I agree that absent managers should get a punishment in some form.
lol- I remember one you posted in the forumQuote:
I don't remember losing a game that I should have won ...
when did I ? perhaps (not sure) I've done that many many many months ago when I first joined this forum ... but I really don't remember complaining maybe because
I learned so much here....
not showing off ... but I am playing around 100 games per season and I rarely lose :D my winning rate per season is around 9.25-9.5/10 ...
what's bothering me is unfortunately 3/4 of my games against absent and inactive managers ...
agreed.especially rarely active to -no active at all- managers should be punished.
why should we lose or draw matches against a ghost team.
all ghost teams should lose all matches and maybe relegate.
yes, it's old, don't worryQuote:
Originally Posted by USARABAT
What about if you fail to promote at least once in any period of 3 consecutive seasons you’re sacked and take over a lower level teamQuote:
Originally Posted by khris
Those online managers are already rewarded with extra possession and an extra pack, plus ability to do changes regarding tactic, formation, players and so on.
Your ideas are quite drastic but also very unpractical on a large scale. This update will clearly make lots of managers mad and just as somebody pointed above, what if somebody don't have internet, or they have a different life event that requires their time, either a party or job, during their sleeping time, etc?
Okay let's put aside the idea of punishing managers who have a valid reason for not watching some of their game as you have said ...Quote:
Originally Posted by PricopGeorgeCătălin
The title of my topic was punishing managers who don't attend 50% of the games. thousands of managers fail to watch 50%-75% of their games and continue to promote or at least tank and become more powerful ... should this issue continue without intervention or should Nordeus take certain measures against them ?
That's pretty tone deaf, mate. People have jobs, children, etc. The game can't punish you for not being your priority.Quote:
Originally Posted by USARABAT
If the game lets players reschedule each home match once without tokens, then make players pay 4 tokens to do any further rescheduling.
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I am not watching my games as I don't think is necessary but I don't think or count myself as an inactive manager. I do log in every day, take care of formation, tactic, condition, moral and so on. Punishing me for what reason? Some of the managers have their games at some very unusual hours so would be very hard for them to watch their games.Quote:
Originally Posted by USARABAT
Even in my case for example, most of my games are at the time I am at work so why should I be punished?
As I've said above, being online at the game is already a bonus for you: extra pack/packs , ability to control better the game, better possession and so on.
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Originally Posted by PricopGeorgeCătălin
That's what many managers are doing as well because unfortunately the unfair system made them feel so due to the absence of penalties
I wonder why T.E. label itself as an online F. management game :D
So you want to punish someone who cant/wont attend games..............have you really thought this idea through? I think you havent.Quote:
Originally Posted by USARABAT
Consider the time zones for a start. Now I dont know if the situation I am in is normal or am I just unlucky .......I live in eastern Australia which is UTC 10 zone and most of my League opponents seem to be from UTC 2,3,4 and 5 which makes it very hard to attend every match. FFS I am not getting out of bed at 3.30am to attend an away match just because my opponent lives on the other side of the world and I wouldnt expect the other bloke to do it either. You want to punish people because of geography , are you really serious. There are much bigger issues in this game than not attending every match.
I throw this idea in the same box as loaning players ,,,,,,,,,,,,the silly box which is full of half thought out ideas.
I suggested some drastic measures but throughout the discussion I realized that it's unfair to punish managers who are busy sometimes or have a valid excuse not to attend certain games at certain times but no body can convince me that a manager have so many valid excuses not to watch more than 50 % of their games !!!!!!!!!!!!!!
T.E. is encouraged to improve the timing of matches and allow managers to chose the best timing for their local match like they do in association which would give them no more excuses for being absent.
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So instead of being narrow minded to criticize the idea of punishing an inactive manager or a manager who fails to attend 50% of his league matches, you should request from T.E. to improve the draw by making it relevant to geographic location of managers and their time zone and ask T.E. to give managers certain choices about the best time for them to play their home game.
guys you keep saying its not fair.USARABAT suggests to punish managers not active.no punishment for not supporting 1-2-10 matches.punishment for not being active half or full seasons.
not being online in your matches doesnt mean your not active.
If this idea was changed to punish managers (somehow , I know there is a very minor punishment now which really is a pittance once you get past level 10) who dont even log in each day then you might get some traction with people. The fact of the matter is these are the people who dont care and maybe should have sanctions against them and not those who do log in every day , train players etc but for whatever reason cant attend 50% or more of games. Myself , due to timezones the best I can do is maybe 60%. From that 60% we lose maybe 10-15% due to work and other rl issues so I am now down to or past the 50% threshold that you suggest but I log in each day , collect my crap , train my players , study opposition etc all of which takes over 3 hours every day ( 5 teams currently) which is probably more of a daily time investment than than most I would guess. Besides my teams seem to do pretty well without me watching every game , maybe they would do better if I watched all the time , maybe not as suggested by other posters.
Now I am really wondering what is your problem , what caused you to post this idea in the first place. It seems you didnt think it through so I might assume you lost to a team that had an absent manager and in a fit of pique started this thread. In that case I can understand your frustration and hence this thread.
The simple answer to this is..........get a life away from your phone/computer , maybe you will find out that real life consumes a decent proportion of a persons day and there are certain things in a day that cant/shouldnt be shifted to accommodate a freaking game and I make no excuses for that to you or anyone else for that matter. Why do managers need VALID excuses that meet your standards and criteria before they are able to miss a match ? At the end of the day this is just a GAME used to fill in spare time and be enjoyed and if this GAME has become something else for you , like a WAY OF LIFE, then I would suggest you need to take a break buddy , go outside and kick a ball maybe. I know for me this is just a GAME and doesnt dominate my life and nor should it.Quote:
Originally Posted by USARABAT
No , upon reflection I still feel this whole idea, original and amended , still belongs in the silly box and no one has so far shown me any VALID reasons to change that opinion.