Level 39 and lost like a rookie. I'm out.

Top11 simulation is getting worst with every update.
I am a regular top11 manager for abt 3 years. I had puchased some tokens in the past and i have acomplished:

18 Championships
6 Ch. League
4 International Cups

Level 39 presently

Last game:
My team 103% 100% Condition and Moral
Opp team: 91%
Both managers present

1 st half i was winning 3-0
2nd Half at min 64; 70; 73; 84 Final score: 4-3
No major changes fm my side.

My ID is: 8645699605629432482

I feel that every time there's an update the game is getting stranger and behaves even more ridiculous than before.

Im sorry, but i do miss the old top11. Too much time lost, studing the opp, trying to get the next big player, do the trainings, buying tokens...
and then it all comes to an 4 goals in 15 min, from a weaker team, playing with older and over 30y 3 star players (what a joke..)
I'm out.

Eduardo Silva

PS - I just checked what my opponent did: He replaced (still in 1st half) his 6 star GK player with a 3 Star GK player (!!) and his 85% striker with a 30y oldie with 70% (!!) WHAT A JOKE TOP11 has become :):):)

It seems he did they right moves.
A 3-4* player is better than a 6* who doesn't play well.
Weird would be if he wasn't present and the score change from 3-0 to 3-4.

how many times has this thing happen to you in these 3 years?
as posidonas says it would be strange if the opponent wasn't online.
as i see things you had a just bad and unlucky fixture..

Question is: how many times this happens in real life?
I remember this one time: "Manchester City 4-3 Tottenham Spurs in FA Cup Fourth round 2004. Spurs took a convincing 3–0 lead into the break after goals from Ledley King, Robbie Keane and a Christian Ziege free kick. However, after the break, goals from Sylvain Distin, Paul Bosvelt, Shaun Wright-Phillips and Jon Macken in the 90th minute sealed a victory, attributed to the "magic of the FA Cup."

And in these 3 years it has happened before! Like 2-0; 2-3;
And furhtermore if you are present at the game, how can you prevent/foresee something like this ? When you're opponent is switching GK's ?! C'mon is was not only abt the end result! My team was 99% full on Energy and Moral.
Its a glitch and the simulation is trying to compensate somehow the difference between teams. It was just too stupid for a human to assist. Maybe from a machine pov it makes sense. Not to humans, sorry. Or maybe the game was "Fixed" like in real life..lol

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My team was 99% full on Energy and Moral.

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those as some other factors (training bonus, win bonus, support, home game) have a very small effect in the game.
Three are the major factors.
Good q players, luck and coaching the game.
You missed 2 of 3 :)

the game suffers in realism.dont expect nothing more.
so when your opponent switched GK maybe the game's machine took it like a radical gameplay changeand gave him some kind of bonus.
and these 15 minutes in the match could be 30 minutes.but it was fake like the visuals.
thats what i believe.

yes exactly
it's only a (mostly management) game, nothing has to do with real football
and it has some known habits .

Some of them :

If you make a sub, usually something good is happening.
If oppo is loosing a player from a red card, prepare to accept a goal.
If you keep your injured GK in the game, you won't concede a goal.

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Originally Posted by nikolgiorgos

yes exactly
it's only a (mostly management) game, nothing has to do with real football
and it has some known habits .

Some of them :

If you make a sub, usually something good is happening.
If oppo is loosing a player from a red card, prepare to accept a goal.
If you keep your injured GK in the game, you won't concede a goal.

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seriously now..who's the genius behind these amazing ideas????

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Originally Posted by nikolgiorgos

yes exactly
it's only a (mostly management) game, nothing has to do with real football
and it has some known habits .

Some of them :

If you make a sub, usually something good is happening.
If oppo is loosing a player from a red card, prepare to accept a goal.
If you keep your injured GK in the game, you won't concede a goal.

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And the latest:
If you're down 0-3 switch GK's and you will win it.

The matching algorithm is getting worse, maybe too much parameters to read, too many adjustments being made.
It is spinning out of control vs reality.
Saying top11 has nothing to do with real football...I wouldn't go that far.
I really don't mind loosing, seriously ..i keep telling everyone that you learn much more when you loose than when winning...but once again, when one looses like my initial post described.. what it is there to learn !? 0, zilsch, rien..
It was not the final outcome that shocked me but the whole process of the defeat altogether with the ridiculous moves from my opponent.

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Originally Posted by Eduardo Silva

And the latest:
If you're down 0-3 switch GK's and you will win it.

The matching algorithm is getting worse, maybe too much parameters to read, too many adjustments being made.
It is spinning out of control vs reality.
Saying top11 has nothing to do with real football...I wouldn't go that far.
I really don't mind loosing, seriously ..i keep telling everyone that you learn much more when you loose than when winning...but once again, when one looses like my initial post described.. what it is there to learn !? 0, zilsch, rien..
It was not the final outcome that shocked me but the whole process of the defeat altogether with the ridiculous moves from my opponent.

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What you learn is the game isn't worth playing on a serious level. It's ridiculous so play casually for fun.

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Originally Posted by Eduardo Silva

And the latest:
If you're down 0-3 switch GK's and you will win it.

The matching algorithm is getting worse, maybe too much parameters to read, too many adjustments being made.
It is spinning out of control vs reality.
Saying top11 has nothing to do with real football...I wouldn't go that far.
I really don't mind loosing, seriously ..i keep telling everyone that you learn much more when you loose than when winning...but once again, when one looses like my initial post described.. what it is there to learn !? 0, zilsch, rien..
It was not the final outcome that shocked me but the whole process of the defeat altogether with the ridiculous moves from my opponent.

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In addition to what has been said above about the factors for winning, pay attention to two facts that many disregard them:

A- The game engine is set to make your team LOSE no matter what AFTER a certain number xxxx of non losing ( win -draw) matches....
B- Experience (players with more number of games perform much better than new players)
C- White skills of the total number of 11 players - Not the overall avarage.

Finally, keep in mind that we're living a new world of soccer where big teams such as Germany, Brazil , Argentine , Italy can lose against South Korea , Belgium, France , Sweden respectively .... Good managers are those who don't let a series of defeat stop them but create more challenge to run their teams in a better way.

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Originally Posted by Eduardo Silva

And the latest:
If you're down 0-3 switch GK's and you will win it.

The matching algorithm is getting worse, maybe too much parameters to read, too many adjustments being made.
It is spinning out of control vs reality.
Saying top11 has nothing to do with real football...I wouldn't go that far.
I really don't mind loosing, seriously ..i keep telling everyone that you learn much more when you loose than when winning...but once again, when one looses like my initial post described.. what it is there to learn !? 0, zilsch, rien..
It was not the final outcome that shocked me but the whole process of the defeat altogether with the ridiculous moves from my opponent.

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In addition to what has been said above about the factors for winning, let me help you with three facts that many disregard them:

A- The game engine is set to make your team LOSE no matter what AFTER a certain number xxxx of non losing ( win -draw) matches....
B- Experience (players with more number of games perform much better than new players)
C- Look at the WHITE skills of your opponent - Not the overall average of a team.

Finally, keep in mind that we're living a new world of soccer where big teams such as Germany, Brazil , Argentine , Italy can lose against South Korea , Belgium, France , Sweden respectively .... Good managers are those who don't let a series of defeat stop them but create more challenge to run their teams in a better way.

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Originally Posted by USARABAT

In addition to what has been said above about the factors for winning, pay attention to two facts that many disregard them:

A- The game engine is set to make your team LOSE no matter what AFTER a certain number xxxx of non losing ( win -draw) matches....
B- Experience (players with more number of games perform much better than new players)
C- White skills of the total number of 11 players - Not the overall avarage.

Finally, keep in mind that we're living a new world of soccer where big teams such as Germany, Brazil , Argentine , Italy can lose against South Korea , Belgium, France , Sweden respectively .... Good managers are those who don't let a series of defeat stop them but create more challenge to run their teams in a better way.

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Agree with A 100%. I call it wheel of (mis)fortune. After a long undefeated run that wheel has every segment of the wheel set as "troll". That match it will feel like whatever you do during the match will make no difference. Subs/tactics change. You can have 70% possession but opponent with get 1 shot on goal and score. Meanwhile your players could play 1000 mins and never score. Before this those same attackers smashed teams left right and centre.

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