I know i complain a lot but is anyone listening?

Here I am, I have thought, threatening to dump this game because it is an unfair, greed-based game that holds very little value for folks like me and many others who try to play it for fun while trying to spend very little real money. The game has very few resources that benefit folks like me and many others. The events hold very few rewards and are difficult to obtain. For example in the European Glory, there are three free entries, then you face off against teams all stronger than yours. I had to re-enter two times on only the second match, then finally I win but then on my next one playing for 3 tokens I lose in such a manner that you cannot but think that it's fixed. I am up 2-0 then I get tied at 2-2 at the end of regulation time. In extra time I end up losing 4-2, WTH? Now my free entries are done and in order to re-enter I have to spend 3 tokens. so, I do not because it is senseless to spend three tokens where the outcome at best is getting my three tokens back and at worse wasting 3 tokens and getting booted out again. Then if say I won, I have to face stronger teams throughout and therefore the whole event is useless to me because the rewards are incredibly weak. The offers within these events are not offers at all, players for the number of tokens they want is ridiculous as well as the daily players, overpriced players, useless unless you have ten thousand tokens to spend and even then they are way too much. The Academy training is useless and way too expensive. The one-day training used to be 4.99 which would be reasonable. Then they increased it to 6.99 expensive but doable, this season it's 9.99 that's robbery. I would want to know how many dumb or rich people spent this amount of money to train one player who next season will lose 20% of all his gains. The offers and prices thereof are ridiculous. This game if it wasn't run by greedy money hogs would be a really good game but until some drastic changes are made it's a bad game for those who can't afford to spend. Last season I spent a little more than I usually do and the outcome was dismal still. Lost too many games to much weaker teams while I could not beat stronger ones, same thing tough seems to happen all the time. It's almost useless unless you spend money because one enters a league with two or three teams much stronger, for example, I entered this season at 119% I am now at 128% but I am competing against teams three teams in the top three positions that are all much stronger and in fact the first place team has not lost one game,I am in 6th place but you automatically know that there is zero chance to win the league and one out of four to qualify for CL. Then all other teams are all around my % quality so what are the chances to do well if I do not want to spend real money? In conclusion, the games that one must play in the free token categories are all hard to get tokens from unless you spend an inordinate amount of time playing them, I do not have the physical time to spend to play games for hours on end and then half the times do not get the tokens to have to go through support and wait weeks to get the rewards IF I even get them. I have been waiting over a week to get 60 tokens I earned in playing a game and so this method also becomes useless.
Games are too hard to play and time-consuming for the amount of tokens one wins. In total this game is sadly a fun game that has been made into an awful one.

And sure enough, lost 3-2 against a team with the same difference except reversed last season i lost 3-2 in the cup final to a team that much weaker than mine then, but of course could. Not win even a regular league season game? Unbelievable i cannot remember when i won a game with a team greater than mine but i sure can remember plenty that beat mine when it was quite stronger how does one reconcile this fact?

Hey, Marco, we're back here. I also don't remember when was the last time I beat a team stronger than mine, even if 2 or 3 percent stronger. Changing tactics, roster, offense, defense, boosts, it's no use, I always lose to stronger teams. They've put me in a championship now where the leaders are 15 to 40 percent stronger than me. Maybe you won't even be able to make it to the top 8. It's nice to play knowing that you have no chance of winning, right? I don't spend another penny on this silly game.

I keep logging in daily just to earn the daily token, nothing more. It's no use, no championship, no cup, no champions, in all there are opponents much, much stronger than me, several of them hacking the game with that of hiding players in training at the end of the season. The developers of the game are stupid, greedy and are destroying the game. Events give ridiculous prizes (and I always lose, even if I face weaker teams), like pitch patterns, who wants that ****?

Right on! I have won some, my team has done pretty well in the past, last season I did manage to arrive 2nd in the league and finalist in Cup and Super League where as expected lost both, the Cup final to a team pretty much weaker than mine and the Super League to a team only 3% stronger than mine, In both cases as you see I could have won but I truly believe that, as we said before, all outcomes are already rigged to be what they will be. I am convinced they place us in leagues with teams much stronger because they want to see if we end up getting tired of floating in the mid to low section of the standings or always losing close and not so close games with weaker opponents that we break down as start spending more money. That, however, is not guaranteed either. Last month I tried to make a strong team because I figured at least when I go into the next season I will still have a decent competitive team. I got my team to 140% that's the highest it ever was and still could not win anything. I think the guys that tank the teams have it right, this way you retain the quality and they usually, not always, but usually place you in a league where you end up being the better team and then have a possible shot at winning something. All in all, I have done moderately well in this game not without spending though. However, the best result I achieved was a league and a CL won in the same season but because I tanked the team the previous season so I ended up in a league whit a lot of weak teams. I cannot complain about the general overall results of my team but I do complain about the fact that if it wasn't such a manipulated and greed-based game I could have done better still. Still, the thing that bothers me the most is the inability to win against stronger opponents while getting beaten too much by weaker ones, especially in clinching games. The other problem with tanking the team and falling under 9th place is that you don't get any of the Association rewards either. It's a quandary really we just need to, as you said, just be resigned to finish where we do and that is it. These greedy ones will never change a thing to help us do better without spending,YES WHAT'S UP WITH THESE PITCH PATTERNS? I think sometimes they plant bugs and programming in the pitch patterns to either make us do well or not, what do you think? It's possible, isn't it?

Pitch patterns are all ugly, as well as useless. What makes a difference in the game? Tokens. Players with high level. You don't get that as a prize, so it's not worth the effort. In the drill video, how many times did you manage to earn 10%? I never. The club's money is worth nothing. Training yields much less than it should and players are always low morale (even in the lead, winning games and such), the green boosts given are insufficient and recovery is too slow.

There's a lot that needs to be improved in this game. As it stands it's a third-rate slot. Too unfair to compete against guys who cheat and build absurdly stronger teams.

I agree 100% but they do all this on purpose because otherwise if the game was fairer then they could not skin us by forcing us to spend more and more, I have 1 billion point 2 dollars and it's just accumulating why? because you need tokens and money the money is useless, that's why when a team wins and places itself it should get tokens not only money, the money is useless if you do not have tokens. Why not be able to swap money for tokens also? teams who win competitions should win tokens, only if the difference between their % and the lowest is less than 15%. For example, the winner and the last promoter % should be less than 15% otherwise it is not fair that a person builds a team say to 140 plus, and then gets tokens too. However, every team within acceptable percentages of difference should get tokens if they win. 20 tokens if you win the league, 15 for second place 10 for third, and 7 for fourth. From 5th to 8th everyone gets 5. The rest nothing. In CL the same, you win you get 20 tokens, the second gets 15 third 10 4th 7. Cup and Super League same. at the end of all competitions also the first four get 10 green, 10 blue, and ten red as well. Get this, I played today against a team one percent weaker than mine lost 4-1 and I picked the tactics suggested by Top Eleven so what does that tell you? What do we always say about them? You are absolutely correct and I do not understand why we continue to play, are we this dense? I guess we always hope that things might change but I believe we are just deluding ourselves, when greed rules nothing else will come about. They should make two Top Eleven categories one completely free and the other where you have purchase options. This way we could probably have some fun otherwise it's futile.

Again I agree with you. It's unfair to compete with guys who pour money into the game, and are favored in competitions by facing much weaker teams. A free version, with smaller prizes, and a paid version, with larger prizes. It might be a good yes. I liked the idea. Too bad the owners of the game do not care about the opinion of the players, they just want to suck money by sticking up sports betting, completely unrelated to the top eleven, in the middle of the game

I have 12 B of money in the game, it serves absolutely nothing. We could use this money to buy green briefcases, pay for special training of players, I don't know, give some use to it. Once you've completed all the stadium builds, you have nowhere else to spend. The signing and salaries of players are also unrealistic. How will a 180% player and a 120% player get the same salary?

After yesterday's defeat with a team 1% weaker for 4-1 one would expect that I should have the same result today when facing a team 1% stronger than mine coming to play in my home. Yesterday I played away and got trounced 4-1 there was no game it looked like I was playing against a team 20% stronger. We will see, I just played a CL group game against a team at 96 % with my team at 122% I won 6-0 but then I cannot win against weaker teams or equal or even stronger at least not easily. I just believe ad I said many times they have an outcome for most teams if not all and the algorithms are set at the start of a new season, The computer knows where it wants to take you, but you don't. In the end, you can even spend and spend and still walk away with a handful of nothing. That is exactly what happened to me last season. I tried to see if I spent and invested a little more money than usual what would happen and lo and behold I got to second place in everything and won nothing except stupid useless money. I have enough money to afford the real Man U and yet I cannot do anything with it. How about the young player academy, what a rip-off that is. Useless just like the other training. you put a player in training for almost most of the season so when you get him back stronger he's good only for a few games then you end up losing 20% of the skills of the entire team. What a scheme they came up with. The young player academy gives you mediocre-quality players then you have to even buy them for tokens? what the heck! If you have players in a youth academy in real life normally they are players that come from your farming youth team and normally you do not have to buy them. I can see if you give me fast training very good quality prospects to charge a few tokens but then in both training academies, the costs are ridiculous. I have 2 players that are ready to level up to master in their playstyle and I now have to end up spending 10 dollars or more to level up because I have no more playstyle boosters, Even that has to be a money scheme. These people are the worse greedy people I have ever seen. I would be better off buying a Playstation and spending once and for all and playing on that. In just have to resign myself to let the team get where it dies and maybe be pleasantly surprised once ina while. I think I am going to have to tank the team next season. I have no more recourse.

I decided not to spend anything else, save tokens, skip events and special sponsor. I didn't win anything last season, even playing the super league final against a weaker team (I was in the Champions League and the opponents from other groups were 50% stronger than me). The playstyle seems to me somewhat useless, I don't see much difference between a player who has one and one who doesn't. And the special skills, my CA with 179%, more than 300% completion and one on one scorer misses absurd goals!

So why train if even with special skill and great stats the player does not make the number of expected goals in relation to the chances he has during the game? Whether it's against a goalie and strong saves, whether it's against a goalie and weak saves.

Yes, I do agree with what you say, I am not sure about playstyles, I think they do something different than the players that do not have them. I agree however 100% about the skills of a player I have an ST that has 255% finishing 253 shooting and 156 % heading and cannot understand the number of shots he misses even with a basically empty net. It's mind-boggling. However, the computer AI algorithms are all wrong which is why this happens. I have my DR who is a corner specialist as a corner taker and a bunch of times my ST went to shoot the corner. What the heck? The ST ought to be receiving the corner kick not taking it. I see the ST acting as MC and MC as ST so much for positioning. Of course, if a player plays outside his position he won't be as effective. I also saw players move out of the way so that their shots would go out and how about the players where the ball bounces in front of them and they stay still so that the adversary takes possession? How about the player runs in front of the GK alone instead of dribbling around him or shooting in the net they stop and then the defender steps in and takes the ball away or the player has the shot but instead of taking it turns around and tries to pass it and inevitably loses it. It's amazing all the things the computer does to throw the game one way or another. I dread when an AMC or other runs up the middle because almost inevitably one of my DMC or defenders or even an attacker or MC floors him and then I get a goal against on a free kick, This happens 75% or more of the time. How about how many times do our amr or aml lose the ball or miss the decisive pass, especially on a counter? it's amazing, it does not matter how much you train, it's true they will miss the easiest plays too many. That's because the fix is in. We are just spinning our wheels in this game. Incidentally and miraculously I won 3-0 tonight at home against a team 1% stronger. I guess this is the payback for my awful defeat in the reverse situation. I'm still in 6th place and it seems that is where I will be parking this season. I think I might tank the team next season, I know I will lose the rewards in the association the season after but in the end I will probably have a chance to keep a decent team for the following season and maybe win something. I wonder how other managers do it besides spending a lot of real money. Tomorrow I am playing at home against a team at 117% mind you my team is 130% we will see, it is not the first time I lose against a much weaker team.

Do you know what I would like to know how in the world a team grows by 3% in a few hours? I have a match in CL the team I will face tonight began yesterday at 130% then today suddenly after a few hours it's 133.9 % it's mind-boggling. This is troublesome I cannot get my team to grow by .5% in a day and that's training like mad and have to spend a lot of greens to refuel the players. These people must have a lot of tokens and boosters on hand because otherwise, it's not possible. Obviously, I will, as usual, lose this game I am already resigned to getting booted out of CL but maybe it stands the reason why even go ahead, I have seen other teams that I would encounter are way stronger so it isn't now it will be ina few days, It may as well be today at least I will have to spend fewer resources if I only have to play in the league, in fact, I'm thinking about putting all my lesser players and just lose anyway what's the purpose otherwise.

I'm also stuck in 6th position, and I see this absurdity of final passing errors, dizzy players on the field, who spin in front of goal instead of kicking... Players missing goals that not even a wheelchair user would miss, amazing. If players' stats and skills aren't worth it, what's worth besides injecting money into the game? Competitive competitions okay, they're great, you strive to do your best but... Competitions where there are rivals 20, 30, 50% stronger, are ridiculous and demotivating.

I was 3rd in the Champions League group, I fell to the Super League and my rival is 30% stronger than me. Cool huh?

Do you know what I find ridiculous is a team that is 132% then suddenly it's 137% then it's 139% in one day? How do these jokers do it? I'll have to start going to look into their subs and reserves because they either hide the players or they just have a lot of tokens and boosters that they can just train the team constantly and recharge the players then do it again and again. It's mind-boggling really. First, you think you have a chance when the team you face is 2 or 3% stronger then suddenly it's almost 10%? You know what they ought to put a block on a team after a full training session for a number of hours before a match of the same competition. These tactics are insane. How does a real team increase its quality in one day that much? I'm getting sick and tired of this crap. It's dishonest but they love that way. You know it's our fault. If all the unhappy managers quit this stupid game maybe they would start making some real fair changes

I agree 100%

You are going to love this one, I played kept the team at 0-0 until the 82' minute when they give them an unexistent foul at the box line, and guess what? it's 0-1 then my team manages to do a superb counter the man is alone before the goalie instead of dribbling around him like they do many times he shoots directly in the arms of the goalie as if he basically passed it to him. UNREAL! I have no words! No fairness in this game at all, the algorithms are screwed up there is not fair play. Funny how it NEVER seems to happen in my favor, I wo der why. I'm starting to think the more we complain the more they spite us.

sensational. Situations like this also happen to me. It makes a lot of anger. I'm sure they hurt us a little more with every FAIR complaint we make here.

so guess what? even today playing at home against a team 5% weaker lost 3-4 with a goal in the last minutes of the game this is already the second game in three this happens. then if you count the two finals CL and Super League last season lost by one goal in the same fashion. This is theft and fraud, it's a conspiracy against certain managers. It cannot be that this happens 9 times out of 10, those are odds that are not casual. I am furious! By the way, did you see the survey they sent? It seems that they are considering some of the things we talked about. Yet they will mean little if we are never in the position to achieve the rewards, It will be useless for me, and if they give 50 tokens to the first four if you and I always arrive under 4th place and they can obviously make sure of that as you can clearly see. Even with these new reward systems, it will always be the same people who will get them and they will get stronger and we will stay there complaining on here as we are now. Unless they truly bud out of programming results this will never go well. My season in the league is already set in stone I will fluctuate between 6th and 8th place they are not allowing me to progress it is obvious. Even in today's game, I looked at the previous matches this team played to see the formations of the teams that won against it. One of them won 5-1 I employed the same formation with similar tactics I think and lost 4-3, so how can one team win 5-1 away and I with the same formation lose 4-3 at home? It's virtually impossible unless the internal programming overrides the formations and tactics and still causes you to lose. I.m so pissed off at all this. If they solely program the computer to give statistical outcomes it would be fairer but it is evident that they manipulate the outcome on another basis other than pure statistics. The algorithms are manipulated, I am telling you for some reason me and you are targeted to do poorly and there is nothing we can do to overcome this, no amount of money, training, formations and tactics and resources will make us do better than what they allow.

When I saw the quiz I remembered you but it seems to me that it was only about the Special Sponsor rewards, which is ridiculous. Pay, pay more for more perks but you can pick one of the **** we'll give you if you pay us even more. Cool huh?! Ridiculous all of this. I tied it with a much weaker team, with a 180% striker, almost 400 finishing, one on one scorer, kicking EVERY chance he had out. What's the chance? 0% shooting being 40% better than their defense

It's mind-boggling really, as I said it's something other than skills, training, and plain statistics. As I said for some strange reason they must have flagged our teams to do poorly. In real competitions we are programmed to win the obvious matches and lose many of the close ones, most of them really. If we only win the obvious but lose 9 out of 10 close ones and decisive games we will get nowhere fast. In fact, that is exactly where we are. In regard to the survey it was not only about special sponsor it also had to do with token rewards for placing top 4 and winning in the various cup competitions. I really wish they would give us the opportunity to exchange money for resources and to restructure the league competition to have the top 4 only promote and not lose 20% of the last 4 to relegate and the rest stay at the same level until they promote. This is the fairer way and it also would be much more motivating for managers. People would no longer have to tank their teams and have more chances to improve their team to do better next season without counting that all teams would have more and better chances to remain competitive season after season. I also believe that Nordeus would not lose money but actually make more money especially if they make things more affordable for all categories of resources.