Please add a forfeit option to game

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08-27-2023
MARCO CAIA

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Please add a forfeit option to game

Please add a forfeit option to the game. There should be an option to not play a game and lose 3-0 anyway it would be more honorable, less time-consuming, and less humiliating than having to face unfair teams that are 50 plus % stronger. This is a travesty that HAS TO END in this game.

Either teams 20% quality higher than others get placed in a different level or there must be an option not to play that game and lose 3-0. It is senseless and far removed from reality that a team should inflict defeats for 8-0, 10-0, and more. Not even amateur teams against high professional teams get beat this badly and we must endure

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getting trounced in competitions where seldom one loses by 3 or 4 goals differential? Give us a break would you please? This is not fun at all and it's not even fair play. And these freaks do not even ever lower their quality to make it fairer and more realistic. Maybe I'm crazy but when I have great disparity such as this, hardly ever do by the way, I put lower-quality players in the lineup. Usually, I still win but at least I give the opponent if not hope to win or draw at least not to be humiliated.
08-28-2023
ianruk

Dude i feel your pain on this. when the new season started for me there was 1 team who had 97% then suddenly by the end of day 1 he was up to 147% he is top right now of the league 13 games 13 wins 69Gf 2 GA playing 3-1-5-1.

He has 4 players maxed out stars. deffo a play to win player (So much for the people running the game saying it will be more fair). i am kinda sure this guy put his outfield team players as low as possible at the end of the season to trick the game into putting him a easier league.

I got to play him in the next 2 days i am deffo just not gonna show up for the game its pointless
08-28-2023
MARCO CAIA

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Originally Posted by ianruk

Dude i feel your pain on this. when the new season started for me there was 1 team who had 97% then suddenly by the end of day 1 he was up to 147% he is top right now of the league 13 games 13 wins 69Gf 2 GA playing 3-1-5-1.

He has 4 players maxed out stars. deffo a play to win player (So much for the people running the game saying it will be more fair). i am kinda sure this guy put his outfield team players as low as possible at the end of the season to trick the game into putting him a easier league.

I got to play him in the next 2 days i am deffo just not gonna show up for the game its pointless

This guy on the screenshot up here as you see started off yesterday at 167.9% Today he is at 168.3% he just keeps training and training or playing friendlies or something so instead of being a fair player increasing his strength even to play with a much weaker opponent. These people must be sadistic. It's not enough to win, now they must humiliate you? What would the difference be if you were the most powerful team in the league, and were winning practically all games, he knows he's winning the league, no doubt there, so, what is the difference between winning 4-0 or trouncing a team 10 or 11 to 0? When we have a team or teams in one competition that are so powerful that they will beat almost all others by trouncing them with such high-scoring results, it defies reality. The reality Nordeus tries so much to emulate is therefore hypocritical because this game has very little to do with reality when you have such great disparities between competing teams. These games become nothing but a training game for them not a fair competitive game. In a same competition, it is very rare to get such lopsided results because of the quality differential between the teams competing.
These are the top ten worse defeats in Champions League HISTORY:

Barcelona 2-8 Bayern Munich (2019/20)

AC Milan 4-0 Barcelona (1993/94)

Barcelona 6-1 Paris Saint-Germain (2016/17)

Bayern Munich 0-4 Real Madrid (2013/14)

Manchester City 7-0 RB Leipzig (2022/23)

Arsenal 1-5 Bayern Munich (2016/17)

Tottenham Hotspur 2-7 Bayern Munich (2019/20)

Liverpool 2-5 Real Madrid (2022/23)

Manchester United 7-1 AS Roma (2006/07)

Real Madrid 8-0 Malmo (2015/16)

These are the greatest wins/defeats in Serie A

Torino 10-0 Alessandria: 2 May 1948
Roma 9-0 Cremonese: 13 October 1929
Torino 9-0 Casale: 6 November 1932
Internazionale 9-0 Casale: 10 September 1933
Milan 9-0 Palermo: 18 February 1951

Roma 7-0 Catania: 19 November 2006
Palermo 0-7 Udinese: 27 February 2011
Sassuolo 0-7 Internazionale: 22 September 2013
Internazionale 7-0 Sassuolo: 14 September 2014
Juventus 7-0 Parma: 9 November 2014
Juventus 7-0 Sassuolo: 4 February 2018
Torino 0-7 Atalanta: 25 January 2020
Torino 0-7 Milan: 12 May 2021

As you can see there are not many 10-0, 11-0 9-0 losses as there are always in this game. While a team could lose so badly one game the next one between the same teams could have been 1-1 but not in Top Eleven. I lost the first game against this team in the screenshot 8-0 Tomorrow I will show you the result of the game, it will definitely not be a close one or a regular defeat, it's going to be another trouncing.

These lopsided games are very rare occurrences and are far removed from reality and Top Eleven/Nordeus has zero intentions to change it to make it more realistic in the game results. They improved the reality in the 3D game but the reality and fairness in the pairing and structure of the game are far from improved.

So to play this guy you know what I did? I put all my lower-quality players in the game, I figured if it had to be a training game for him let it be such even for my team. This way I will improve the weaker players and if there is an injury or red card they will not hurt my first team. This is what I will do when I have to play a much stronger team.
08-28-2023
ianruk

Also fun thing to do is go to transfers and look at the auction sort it by age and see if you notice anything you have all these 200+ people bidding on EVERYONE like 30-40 tokens sometimes its to the point now that lower level players can not even buy anyone unless its the scout
08-29-2023
MARCO CAIA

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Originally Posted by ianruk

Also fun thing to do is go to transfers and look at the auction sort it by age and see if you notice anything you have all these 200+ people bidding on EVERYONE like 30-40 tokens sometimes its to the point now that lower level players can not even buy anyone unless its the scout

Yes, so it ended I lost 8-0 then the funny thing Top Eleven sends me a notification saying Better luck next time. I mean, is it necessary? To rub it in? Salt on the wound they create by allowing such high % teams to compete in levels where most of the teams are 30 plus % weaker. So better luck? How is anyone ever going to compete with that difference? Come on! This is actually disingenuous and dishonest. Where is the fair play? This by the way, when I started to play almost a year ago was not this bad. Now it's common place in every single competition in this game. It's out of control now but they just don't care to fix it. I wish I had the money and resources to create a similar game. It would be so much better and fair than this one.
In terms of what you say about auctions. It's true, I don't buy players in auction. Once I a while I may resort to buy one in scout but mostly I find it's tokens better spent to raise up a player from Youth Academy
I have gotten to the point now that I really don't care to win any trophy anymore. It has become too complicated and expensive to try to compete with some of these teams. If they don't correct the pairings in the competition and place teams in levels by quality rather than only level for some of us there will never be a chance to reach a trophy not this way.
08-29-2023
vinim

And when do they make it the special sponsor's goal to buy a player with x% and such age? The auctions go to 70, 80 tokens. For a player you usually won't use. It's insane. Auctions are insane. The distribution of teams in the championships is insane. The amounts charged are insane. Playing drew frenzy 15 times and getting red card in the second round EVERY time is ridiculous. The game needs a lot of improvements, the graphical improvement without improvement in gameplay is useless.
08-29-2023
MARCO CAIA

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Originally Posted by ianruk

Dude i feel your pain on this. when the new season started for me there was 1 team that had 97% then suddenly by the end of day 1 he was up to 147% he is top right now of the league 13 games 13 wins 69Gf 2 GA playing 3-1-5-1.

He has 4 players maxed out stars. deffo a play-to-win player (So much for the people running the game saying it will be more fair). i am kinda sure this guy put his outfield team players as low as possible at the end of the season to trick the game into putting him an easier league.

I got to play him in the next 2 days i am deffo just not gonna show up for the game its pointless

Do you think the computer selects an easier level for a team if the last day of the season they play with their lower players or would the computer know the total % value of the entire team? I am perplexed about this actually. I heard of managers selling a lot of higher quality players to get placed in an easier league but that strategy seems that it could be detrimental because you still have to get better players than the other teams to do well. It would seem a better idea the way you wrote and if that is possible then I could try it. However, the league may be easier but losing 20% for example at the level my team will be at the end of the season is devastating because at the very most my team will be at its maximum 120% with the best players and probably around 105% with the lower quality players. So losing 20% would put my best team at 100% and my lower players at 85% at the level I am right now there are not many teams at this low percentage. This is why I believe that teams should be paired within their own level achieved with teams that do not exceed 15% differentials in quality and all the super high percentage teams be placed in a league with teams all within 15% quality from each other as well. I believe this would even the playing field, be fairer to all, and give us much better competition. I think there is no choice at this point but to try to arrive within the last 3 or 4 and not promote, keep the 20%, and hope because we arrive in a low position to end up in an easier league and have a good quality team. I think If we want a team at or around 140% we need to tank the team and arrive in the last three-four slots for two seasons. What sucks is that we either pull out of the association or lose the rewards for not placing in the first 8. No matter what we who cannot spend a lot and do not get too many opportunities to get free tokens are basically screwed.
09-01-2023
maloukees

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Originally Posted by MARCO CAIA

Please add a forfeit option to the game. There should be an option to not play a game and lose 3-0 anyway it would be more honorable, less time-consuming, and less humiliating than having to face unfair teams that are 50 plus % stronger. This is a travesty that HAS TO END in this game.

Either teams 20% quality higher than others get placed in a different level or there must be an option not to play that game and lose 3-0. It is senseless and far removed from reality that a team should inflict defeats for 8-0, 10-0, and more. Not even amateur teams against high professional teams get beat this badly and we must endure

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getting trounced in competitions where seldom one loses by 3 or 4 goals differential? Give us a break would you please? This is not fun at all and it's not even fair play. And these freaks do not even ever lower their quality to make it fairer and more realistic. Maybe I'm crazy but when I have great disparity such as this, hardly ever do by the way, I put lower-quality players in the lineup. Usually, I still win but at least I give the opponent if not hope to win or draw at least not to be humiliated.

There should be a fair draw system and a League system based on the quality (like FA) NO MORE 20% remove after season NO MORE level.. just plain quality
09-01-2023
MARCO CAIA

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Originally Posted by maloukees

There should be a fair draw system and a League system based on the quality (like FA) NO MORE 20% remove after season NO MORE level.. just plain quality

exactly right! this way, we do not have an opportunity to do anything, I have been saying it for months, no more 20% loss. place teams in leagues with teams of comparable quality. These parameters should be based on taking real football info about teams in the major leagues in countries and applying them to this system. In other words, what is the maximum quality and the minimum quality of real teams in any given league? Then that is the percentage differential they must apply here. There is nowhere in ANY league where a team is so much weaker than the top team as they have it here. In addition, I would even go further. Teams in any league, any. should not be allowed to improve during the season more than what it improves through training sessions. The market for new players should be open only at the beginning of the season for 5 days and the beginning of the season's second leg for three days as it is in real football. Training academies and Youth academies should work the same way. If you want a player-trained x 98 you lose him the entire season and he is available only at the start of the new season. The youth academy is ok the way it is now, No more of this garbage pay and you get one player trained up so much so in just one day. All training bonus coaches one gets through Boost and all others should not be immediate, you train a player, you lose him until the next season. Period! just these changes would totally make this game much much fairer for all, paying or not managers. I am still of the opinion that there ought to be the promotion of the first 4, relegation of the last four and the others remain in that level until they are either promoted or relegated. In addition, there ought to come a time of a team's history when they reach the limit of promotion in other words you reach a prime league and stay in it or are relegated down no longer promoted. In fact, I believe that CL and Super League should be only played by the teams that arrive in the Prime League never before getting there. The first 4 and next 4 as they are now enter into these two competitions. They want to keep saying that they are trying to make this game realistic then they better make it so. Also, prizes for all competitions and leagues should be made similar to the rewards we get in the Association. Since they already updated Tope Eleven to 2024 I guess we can rest assured they will not make any of these changes any time soon if ever. These changes would make this game so much more competitive at all levels and fairer for all. What good is it for any of us to pass the CL group stager and immediately be facing an opponent that is 40% stronger? What sense does it have at all? They are just making us waste time and boosters to train amd reas and morale for nothing, Perhaps that is the real intention? They just want o give you the false idea that you will be getting somewhere while in reality you will go nowhere fast.