T11 vs Real life

Thought I would post this as it was put in another thread and was completely off topic. I felt it could use a thread of its own since its quite the bugaboo for me.

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Originally Posted by Murat Firarda

**** THIS CRAP GAME
I AM LEVEL 8 AND I PLAYED TO A TEAM THATS LAST PLACE ,HE WINS ZERO TIME AND WINS FROM ME AND I PLAYED AT HOME
I HAVE PLAYERS FROM 4 AND 5 STARS AND HE HAve 2 /3 stars player . HE WINS 1-3 FROM IS THAT NOT CRAP??? ANSWER ME PLS
AND HE PLAYED WITHOUT A GKEEPER ,WAS A AMC PLAYER ON GOAL
IS THIS NOT CRAP IS THIS POSIBBLE??? VERY CRAP I EVER SEE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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Originally Posted by Kaushik Murmu

buddy just calm down. look as u say u have 4 and 5 star players and your opponent have 2/3star players and still u are losing b'coz your players are not motivated against your weak opponent as july had earlier said it " messi will be highly motivated playing against real madrid and not against any weak opponent team.

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Of course, my take:

This game has players that respond by numbers in a computer. THERE ARE NO EMOTIONS PROGRAMMED INTO THIS GAME!!!

****! People keep adding these humanizing aspects to a container of numbers in an online simulation, and I use the term "simulation" loosely.

This is bull**** when you think your players are not motivated and YOU CANT USE REAL LIFE TO COMPARE IN THIS SITUATION.

The guy probably had all of his players superb and full condition and lost. This is almost the equivalent of winning the anti-lottery! The stars were aligned so it all was perfect for him to lose in the most unlikely of circumstances. Nordeus needs to fix this ****.

But the reason why I started this thread was that I have seen many posts where people humanize the players in this game.

- Renewing contracts because your players are unhappy.
- Your player is not motivated against lower quality teams.
- Freekick specialist missing sitters because of he cant play with a certain formation.

It might be true that the player performs better with a 3 year contract, but he is neither happy or unhappy because of this. I see many high quality team managers complain when they lose to serious LOL teams, and they claim they have all players full morale and condition and i believe them for the most part because I have had the same happen to me. But for some nutjob to say motivation is a factor without being able to prove this is just gobsmacking to me.

STOP thinking that the players have feelings and can think or be confused.

****!

Colin OUT!

THIS.

It's honestly quite embarrassing when you see grown men thinking too much into this game, it's quite obviously a roll of the dice.

I mean, if Nordeus were clever enough to add players emotions as a factor, you'd think they could fix the other horrifyingly **** aspects of the game :')

yesterday i lost 0:1 at home. im 28Q with 4 and 5 star players. my opponent was 18Q with 2 star playersand with Bot as manager.plus i got an injured player. thats nordeus. ended my 15 straight win streak. like xsrenity sais its just dices

At least in Top Eleven the Champions League is far more interesting than the RL Champions League.

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Originally Posted by July Fourth

At least in Top Eleven the Champions League is far more interesting than the RL Champions League.

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I disagree...seeing Barca lose to Munich was the story of the year. 7-0 pasting of one of the best teams in the world...Real going out like they did, ManUre going out like they did...one of the better years for the CL.

Which year are you talking about...:p

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Originally Posted by cracicot

I disagree...seeing Barca lose to Munich was the story of the year. 7-0 pasting of one of the best teams in the world...Real going out like they did, ManUre going out like they did...one of the better years for the CL.

Which year are you talking about...:p

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None. Just the RL Champions League in general.

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Originally Posted by cracicot

I disagree...seeing Barca lose to Munich was the story of the year. 7-0 pasting of one of the best teams in the world...Real going out like they did, ManUre going out like they did...one of the better years for the CL.

Which year are you talking about...:p

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Agreed!

You realize nordeus could have made players not play as well against weaker teams and play better against better teams? We all know it happens in real life so why couldn't they have put that into the game? I don't see what would be so surprising about it.

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Originally Posted by festinator

You realize nordeus could have made players not play as well against weaker teams and play better against better teams? We all know it happens in real life so why couldn't they have put that into the game? I don't see what would be so surprising about it.

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considering the lack of action on many issues, it just shows that Nordeus does not pay attention to such detail, and therefore it is hard to believe that they would actually program something like this into the game.

Think about it....they can but wont fix the friendlies issue, but you think that they put extra motivation into the game? they have a bug that the GK gets injured and still plays superstar defense...and you think they put emotional motivation and such into the game???

Pull the other one...

Just cuz they won't fix anything now, doesn't mean they didn't put it in when they were making the game. Its not like they didn't put any thought into the game. This has the potential to be a brilliant game. Nordeus just doesn't seem to give a crap. That'll be their downfall. And I'm not saying their putting anything emotional into the game, just that they could have programmed the better players to play their best against better teams. Maybe they didn't do that, maybe they did. No one will ever know cuz they will never tell us.

In my cup I have beaten a team with 5 quality higher the past few days, twice, both home and away, never in danger of losing. In the league I faced two weak teams ( more than 10 quality lower). it was two draws, despite having good formations against them. Pretty much the same players used. So there could be something more to it than randomness.
But still...there are far more pressing matters in this game that need fixing (such as...not having screens that are too white...*cough*)

I believe from previous experience in my programming career algorithms for simulation games take very little into consideration

Randomness (literally 0 or 1, e.g 0 = Manchester City, 1 = United, the engine may give 1 a slightly higher chance of scoring a goal because of a possible superior striker)

Honestly I have no idea how their algorithm works, but I had colleagues in the game industry (while I was also working at the same studio) while I worked for Ubisoft that specialized in the algorithm (not a huge aspect of their games either) and during our nights out that is what they talked about.

The game engine isn't suppose to be kind, sure you have a much better chance of winning if you have a superior team and better formation, but randomness trumps that.

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Originally Posted by zJordan

I believe from previous experience in my programming career algorithms for simulation games take very little into consideration

Randomness (literally 0 or 1, e.g 0 = Manchester City, 1 = United, the engine may give 1 a slightly higher chance of scoring a goal because of a possible superior striker)

Honestly I have no idea how their algorithm works, but I had colleagues in the game industry (while I was also working at the same studio) while I worked for Ubisoft that specialized in the algorithm (not a huge aspect of their games either) and during our nights out that is what they talked about.

The game engine isn't suppose to be kind, sure you have a much better chance of winning if you have a superior team and better formation, but randomness trumps that.

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Well we always knew these programmers of T11 arent rocket scientists. They are extortionistic entrepreneurs only out for a steady good paycheck on our backs. I have always said that this program is not complicated but somehow they have every excuse in the book for not fixing the game with easy fixes.

There is almost a sense that randomness is king instead of logic. If this is the case, it does not bode well for anyone.

Topic closed.


Craicot, please avoid swearing on the forum.