20% Ball position

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11-20-2012
Gilad Klein

20% Ball position

Hello. today i played my first league game that has to be finished 5-0 or even more.
but at the beggining of the game i sudenly saw that the other team has 80% ball position and done with score of 1-1

Pics :

My Team :
they werent tired or sad. all stand in right position that belong to them.

http://img641.imageshack.us/img641/4389/21933621.png

The Game shows the diffence between my team against hes team...

http://img827.imageshack.us/img827/2207/68468949.png

Help please!!!!:(:(:(:(:(
11-20-2012
Paul Brown

Now that is the strangest thing ive seen on Top 11
11-20-2012
100 dinara

Hi Gilad.

You must have at least 3 defenders (green players).
11-20-2012
technotronic

100 dinara is right... Here is a part of JustDoMes guide:

While there are many possible formations in Top 11, not all of them are valid. This is what it's commonly refered as "illegal formations". The exact rules and consequences aren't publicly known, but it's generally accepted that if your formation is illegal, you'll be penalised with a heavy loss of ball possession. And while it's possible to win with one of said formations, it's not a common occurance.

In order for a formation to be legal it must have:

-At least 3 defenders.
-At least 1 striker.
-At least a player in each flank.
-A goalkeeper.
11-20-2012
PricopGeorgeCătălin

Like technotronic said, if you don't have at least 3 def and 1 player on each flank you will lose possesion till 20%.
11-20-2012
July Fourth

Quote:

Originally Posted by technotronic

In order for a formation to be legal it must have:

-At least 3 defenders.
-At least 1 striker.
-At least a player in each flank.
-A goalkeeper.

Thanks I was actually planning on playing a 4-6-0 formation as an "experiment" But now since its "illegal" its pointless actually attempting playing 4-6-0.
11-20-2012
PricopGeorgeCătălin

@July Fourth is not illegal you can play how you want.
11-20-2012
Gilad Klein

Quote:

Originally Posted by 100 dinara

Hi Gilad.

You must have at least 3 defenders (green players).

if ill do 2-1-2-1-4
you think it will be allright?
11-20-2012
July Fourth

Quote:

Originally Posted by PricopGeorgeCătălin

@July Fourth is not illegal you can play how you want.

lol, you need 1 striker, so playing 4-6-0 would result in 20% possession which would most likely end up in a lot of defeats.
11-20-2012
July Fourth

if ill do 2-1-2-1-4
you think it will be allright?

No, you need 3 defenders.
11-20-2012
Raykco

I don't think that having just 2 defenders, should be an illegal formation. Up until the 1970's, practically ALL teams used to employ just two fullbacks. They had 3 "Half-Backs" (DM/DML/DMR). Wonder why we can't use this system now.
11-20-2012
July Fourth

Quote:

Originally Posted by Raykco

I don't think that having just 2 defenders, should be an illegal formation. Up until the 1970's, practically ALL teams used to employ just two fullbacks. They had 3 "Half-Backs" (DM/DML/DMR). Wonder why we can't use this system now.

Your right, years ago a common formation was 2-3-5
11-20-2012
Gilad Klein

Quote:

Originally Posted by July Fourth

if ill do 2-1-2-1-4
you think it will be allright?

No, you need 3 defenders.

GK
DL-DC-DC-DR
DMC
MC-MC
AMC
ST-ST

isnt good enought? or i need 3 dc??
11-20-2012
Tom Banks

Have you recently changed your formation? as sometimes if you are watching the match and move a couple of players the ball posseion drops low as in your case so you may want to change your formation.

All Stars FC
Level 20
11-20-2012
July Fourth

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gilad Klein

GK
DL-DC-DC-DR
DMC
MC-MC
AMC
ST-ST

isnt good enought? or i need 3 dc??

That is okay your formation here is infact 4-1-2-1-2 or 4-4-2 Narrow Diamond
11-20-2012
Arik

It depends on the strength of your opponent and the formation you both play.
11-20-2012
Accyrover

So are we saying as long as three green players are in your own half, there would be no possession loss.

IE.

-------------DC------DC
MFR/DMR----DC/DMC----MFL/DML
11-20-2012
Abi Maingame

Quote:

Originally Posted by technotronic

In order for a formation to be legal it must have:

-At least 3 defenders.
-At least 1 striker.
-At least a player in each flank.
-A goalkeeper.

Thanks. technotronic for this info. I've played with no wingers and LM/RM before. Seems OK. No heavy loss on possession.
11-20-2012
Abi Maingame

Quote:

Originally Posted by July Fourth

Thanks I was actually planning on playing a 4-6-0 formation as an "experiment" But now since its "illegal" its pointless actually attempting playing 4-6-0.

Haha. Looks like Spain fans can't play their fav team's formation here. Sigh.
11-20-2012
Abi Maingame

Quote:

Originally Posted by Raykco

I don't think that having just 2 defenders, should be an illegal formation. Up until the 1970's, practically ALL teams used to employ just two fullbacks. They had 3 "Half-Backs" (DM/DML/DMR). Wonder why we can't use this system now.

Seems like in TE, having 2 defenders is 'illegal' and 20%possession is the 'punishment'.
11-21-2012
Alexander Andersson

I don't exactly understand what you mean with "at least a player in each flank". Does that mean that I should have at least one player in the positions ML, AML and MR, AMR? Because right now I only have two in MC position and one DMC and one AMC. I don't have any players on the flank in the middle and win a lot of games anyway :)
11-21-2012
kilkenny-rugby

Quote:

Originally Posted by Alexander Andersson

I don't exactly understand what you mean with "at least a player in each flank". Does that mean that I should have at least one player in the positions ML, AML and MR, AMR? Because right now I don't have that and win a lot of games anyway :)

yes but you have a LB and RB!!!
11-21-2012
kaiballz

Quote:

Originally Posted by technotronic

100 dinara is right... Here is a part of JustDoMes guide:

While there are many possible formations in Top 11, not all of them are valid. This is what it's commonly refered as "illegal formations". The exact rules and consequences aren't publicly known, but it's generally accepted that if your formation is illegal, you'll be penalised with a heavy loss of ball possession. And while it's possible to win with one of said formations, it's not a common occurance.

In order for a formation to be legal it must have:

-At least 3 defenders.
-At least 1 striker.
-At least a player in each flank.
-A goalkeeper.

i tried playing this formation and i got the 20% possession bug
however it looks to me like i fulfilled all conditions? (yup its a very defensive formation i'm up 1-0 in a league game vs a lvl 5 opponent and i'm lvl 1)

_______ST

____MC___MC
DML DMC DMC DMR
____DC DC DC
_______GK

when i switched one of my dmc to amc the possession went back to normal
11-21-2012
PricopGeorgeCătălin

How come that? You played a game in your league versus a level 5 and you are level 1, no chance... maybe in CUP and still this is not I beated with level 3 team who was level 8 or 9 but dosen't mean I'm better, the only reason for me and you that we win is only because that guys are not activ anymore and their players have very poor moral!
11-21-2012
kaiballz

Quote:

Originally Posted by PricopGeorgeCătălin

How come that? You played a game in your league versus a level 5 and you are level 1, no chance... maybe in CUP and still this is not I beated with level 3 team who was level 8 or 9 but dosen't mean I'm better, the only reason for me and you that we win is only because that guys are not activ anymore and their players have very poor moral!

lol.. what he said. basically because my opponent was inactive thats why i won. but doesn't really answer my qn though..
11-21-2012
kaiballz

Quote:

Originally Posted by kaiballz

lol.. what he said. basically because my opponent was inactive thats why i won. but doesn't really answer my qn though..

does anyone know the reason behind this?