I love top eleven but it feels like no much 'brain' here

I will explain why:

I created 2 accounts, one for me and one of my son.
My son is 6 years old and has no clue he plays top11.

I log to my team on a daily basis, train my guys, subs while game is on, buy better players, build nice stadium and give moral and boosters daily.
I feel like i am a good manager.

My son does nothing ( i told you, he is 6 years old and has no idea he plays)


Guess What?
My son team is leading its league by far and for sure will win it.
My team is #2 with no chance to win the title.

I looked on my son's team and the team of my league leader.
They are both using same format 4-5-1 and they are both not playing at all.


So the question is?
If all I need to do is to play 4-5-1 and win it while others are really trying hard is a fair thing? a bug? a myth?
Am I talking non-sense?

I also read some guys here that say they have the best team and best striker best orders and yada yada yada.
So the question is, do they really what they claim or it is more of a luck to have the correct formation to win games.


I hope to read many opinions because it really bothers me

Since there are no official facts of how the game engine decides who wins and loses, all you will find here is controversing opinions of managers. I guess you are in a lvl 1 league otherwise your son's unmanaged team wouldn't be leading. As you go up the lvls and participate in more competions it needs more caring to keep up. As for formations, some managers stick with 1 while others adjust for every match to counter their opponent's. I belong to both categories tbh. I have 3 accounts that i switch formation every match and 2 that i keep same formation. All perform very well by either winning the league or placing at top 3 at worst.

I guess tactics doesnt matter so much people think. I guess you only need to use a legal formation (one striker at least, two both flanks with players, three midfielders at least, three defenders at least...).

I guess the really important thing is use better numbers (players) than rival. And dont forget the random factor. Roll dices, with advantages (high numbers on skills, moral, health...).

If you play with better players well positioned and with high morale and health you will have more chances but victory is not guaranted.

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Originally Posted by hod

I will explain why:

I created 2 accounts, one for me and one of my son.
My son is 6 years old and has no clue he plays top11.

I log to my team on a daily basis, train my guys, subs while game is on, buy better players, build nice stadium and give moral and boosters daily.
I feel like i am a good manager.

My son does nothing ( i told you, he is 6 years old and has no idea he plays)


Guess What?
My son team is leading its league by far and for sure will win it.
My team is #2 with no chance to win the title.

I looked on my son's team and the team of my league leader.
They are both using same format 4-5-1 and they are both not playing at all.


So the question is?
If all I need to do is to play 4-5-1 and win it while others are really trying hard is a fair thing? a bug? a myth?
Am I talking non-sense?

I also read some guys here that say they have the best team and best striker best orders and yada yada yada.
So the question is, do they really what they claim or it is more of a luck to have the correct formation to win games.


I hope to read many opinions because it really bothers me

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I love your post and its so true.

You can create facebook accounts for the monkeys in the zoo and they should win most of their games and a few trophies by doing nothing but sit on a formation the first 2 seasons. Nordeus does this so you dont get frustrated and quit before you spend real money on tokens. They sucker you in with winning for absolutely no reason, then when you understand the game a bit, and get attached to it, they make it so you will be tempted to spend real money, and once you do that...BANG! injuries, schedule issues and bad results - all created to make you spend money.

Take my advice: dont spend money on this game.

It is addictive and i think what foulmouthbiotech says is quite possible.

Since reading here a lot gave me the understanding that some guys cheat and some are honest, some guys get more free tokens and some like me none (No free videos/token in the Israeli server) I think I will take this as a challenge to show the game i can beat the league fair and square with my own knowledge.

Do i have a chance?
p.s Today i won 4-1.

it's a bummer the videos are only some localities.


Good luck Hod, I think you can do it (unless you have a big spender in your league :()

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Originally Posted by hod

It is addictive and i think what foulmouthbiotech says is quite possible.

Since reading here a lot gave me the understanding that some guys cheat and some are honest, some guys get more free tokens and some like me none (No free videos/token in the Israeli server) I think I will take this as a challenge to show the game i can beat the league fair and square with my own knowledge.

Do i have a chance?
p.s Today i won 4-1.

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It is not only possible, but actually real. This is not the only thread where someone has mentioned this. There are several and if there are several, there is most likely many more that are just accepted without complaining.

With the supposed millions of accounts, it is realistic to assume that there are tens of thousands of low level accounts that win consistantly with no quality and for no reason. They win more often than full scout teams versus LOL teams, thanks to the lovely and fair game gerbil-run engine.

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Originally Posted by hod

I will explain why:

I created 2 accounts, one for me and one of my son.
My son is 6 years old and has no clue he plays top11.

I log to my team on a daily basis, train my guys, subs while game is on, buy better players, build nice stadium and give moral and boosters daily.
I feel like i am a good manager.

My son does nothing ( i told you, he is 6 years old and has no idea he plays)


Guess What?
My son team is leading its league by far and for sure will win it.
My team is #2 with no chance to win the title.

I looked on my son's team and the team of my league leader.
They are both using same format 4-5-1 and they are both not playing at all.


So the question is?
If all I need to do is to play 4-5-1 and win it while others are really trying hard is a fair thing? a bug? a myth?
Am I talking non-sense?

I also read some guys here that say they have the best team and best striker best orders and yada yada yada.
So the question is, do they really what they claim or it is more of a luck to have the correct formation to win games.


I hope to read many opinions because it really bothers me

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Its a basic game, not to be taken seriously, I spend more time on the forum than I do the game...We like to think we are having an effect on the team and maybe to a little degree we do but not that much. I think the formation thing works to a degree too but again maybe not. I do think the engine decides before the game who is going to win whatever we do.

Its all up to the individual if they live by the game, and some do and its their life. Take it for what it is a social media game that takes about 20 mins of your day. Forum wise its hilarious reading the very important posts by some peeps....But I like tonight I am in the lap of the engine Gods to see if I win. I was 2-0 down in CL semi final 1st leg, 2nd leg was away and put two players in their wrong positions with a formation i have never done before and swung the tie for me to go thu to final 4-2 on agg, I then realised you dont need players in their rt places as they both got a rating of 7 and 8.

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Originally Posted by leddy

Its a basic game, not to be taken seriously, I spend more time on the forum than I do the game...We like to think we are having an effect on the team and maybe to a little degree we do but not that much. I think the formation thing works to a degree too but again maybe not. I do think the engine decides before the game who is going to win whatever we do.

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yup, exactly. which is why I dont spend money on this game. I dont like to spend money on frustration. I like to spend money on happiness. the only people being made happy by this game is Nordeus as we are conned into spending money on something they make us think we are in control of.

I have 3 accounts that i barely touch all are in the top 4 in quite active leagues, theyve been winning games where i hadnt removed injured or suspended so i had players in wrong positions yet still won.

Some pics/screens would be nice.... :rolleyes:

I spend on the game around 2 hours a day not only by playing but also by reading and trying to understand what to do next.
Call me stupi* but i dont play other games only this.
Still today i lost 2-4 to a team with no admin and no ambitious for this season. I did the same i do every game, same format, same players with full condition and moral, my players are really better from any player in my league and i already built an upgraded stadium.
Really upset.

Till 3 weeks ago i had no idea that there are games of managing football teams. Now i am addict.
I just registered into hattrick. Lets see if it is better or the same.

For Top11 admins- You must make sure some BRAIN here. dont leave things to random.

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Originally Posted by Deghinsea

Since there are no official facts of how the game engine decides who wins and loses, all you will find here is controversing opinions of managers. I guess you are in a lvl 1 league otherwise your son's unmanaged team wouldn't be leading. As you go up the lvls and participate in more competions it needs more caring to keep up. As for formations, some managers stick with 1 while others adjust for every match to counter their opponent's. I belong to both categories tbh. I have 3 accounts that i switch formation every match and 2 that i keep same formation. All perform very well by either winning the league or placing at top 3 at worst.

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Sorry I strongly disagree. From level 1 to level 6 I finished 1st or 2nd every season. Level 7 I was 4th, level 8 I was 6th and this Level I need to win on the last day and hope team 7 don't to gain promotion. I have kept the same formation generally in the 8 seasons up to now, but this season I have lost to teams who I would normally have beaten with half of a team. I suffered my worst defeats ever, 7-0 away and 5-0 at home to teams who were of similar quality and value. I've tried about 4 different formations and am playing with a squad of 1 7 star, 16 6 star and 3 5 star players. I have studied the squads of other teams in my league and watched their formations and I reckon I have the third best team in the league, yet I'm 8th. I'm losing interest with each day that passes

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Originally Posted by rfc5141

Sorry I strongly disagree. From level 1 to level 6 I finished 1st or 2nd every season. Level 7 I was 4th, level 8 I was 6th and this Level I need to win on the last day and hope team 7 don't to gain promotion. I have kept the same formation generally in the 8 seasons up to now, but this season I have lost to teams who I would normally have beaten with half of a team. I suffered my worst defeats ever, 7-0 away and 5-0 at home to teams who were of similar quality and value. I've tried about 4 different formations and am playing with a squad of 1 7 star, 16 6 star and 3 5 star players. I have studied the squads of other teams in my league and watched their formations and I reckon I have the third best team in the league, yet I'm 8th. I'm losing interest with each day that passes

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yet anther person finding out the truth the hard way...after a few seasons, Nordeus knows you are hooked on the game and will buy tokens, so now they increase the pressure to buy tokens by making your team lose more often, even to illogical LOL teams. That is supposes to spur your decision to buy more tokens in order to buy better players or increase your current player skills.

This is marketing-101. Make the game easy to win at the start to get you excited about the game and then they gotcha! You see better players and the current system is set to suck the tokens out of you as everyone else is after the best players, which are few and far between at the best of times. THEN, when you have spent $50, you have an interest in the team and dont want to lose the money, so you keep buying tokens and the losing makes you buy even more to get better players. It is a vicious cycle and it is done solely for greed.

As you get higher in levels, you come across the people who invest. There are less people who play for free because they just cant compete with the 6-7-8-9* TEAMS. but that is where the gerbil engine comes into play: it creates illogical results in order to even out the system and prevent people from outright quitting because every day is a day that these people can change their minds and buy tokens.

You just have to make a stand and promise yourself that you will not buy any tokens because this is not a game worth spending money on. ANY console games are much better things that deserve the money and time. Of course you can spend money on these games too, but these are complex games with stories and history. T11 is a backwater game that looks better than it actually is. Remember, T11 is designed to take as much money from you as possible - EVERY DAY!. Other console games are designed for you to pay up front and then enjoy the entertainment whenever you want.

T11 is just a lesson in frustration and greed. This is pure fantasy football that cant compare to real football manager games because it just does not have the complexity and if it were to gain this complexity, it will cost everyone money to play to have any chance of success.

And for those who ask me why I dont quit: I get bored very easy and spend a lot of time online and I love football. I dont spend money on this game and will never do it. The temptation for that is over, and believe me, I was very tempted. This game will never be good enough to warrant me spending any money on it. Too bad others are suckers and spend like crazy because it keeps Nordeus from improving the game. To them, this game is perfect and not broken, so why fix it? they take their time making upgrades that will cost them in the long run in order to suck as much money from us as possible. It is just bad business to screw the customer and hide it. that is why they are secretive with how the game works and there are barely any instructions. Everything is just enough for you to play, but they wont give out the simplest of gameplay instructions: morale, illegal formations, player attribs, etc.

meh, a better online football manager game cant come along soon enough.....

I think someone in top11 is reading my posts- After i was 2nd with huge gap i lost my 4 out of 5 games in a row and dropped all the way to #4.
Big Brother is watching you !

[QUOTE=hod;142049]I think someone in top11 is reading my posts- After i was 2nd with huge gap i lost my 4 out of 5 games in a row and dropped all the way to #4.
Big Brother is watching you ![/QUOTE]

Thats true in real life

[QUOTE=leddy;142059]

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Originally Posted by hod

I think someone in top11 is reading my posts- After i was 2nd with huge gap i lost my 4 out of 5 games in a row and dropped all the way to #4.
Big Brother is watching you ![/QUOTE]

Thats true in real life

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xWC0D5UgcGo

I'd like to know why when i register and start playing i become a manager of some previously Bot operated team and i have no control of the previous games of the season???

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Originally Posted by Ivaylo Antonov

I'd like to know why when i register and start playing i become a manager of some previously Bot operated team and i have no control of the previous games of the season???

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We all done that when we started the game. If you joined late then you get a team thats played nearly all of its games.

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Originally Posted by hod

I think someone in top11 is reading my posts- After i was 2nd with huge gap i lost my 4 out of 5 games in a row and dropped all the way to #4.
Big Brother is watching you !

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Nordeus is such a brilliant company. Top Eleven is surely the best game I have ever played in my life. So amazing.

*hint hint wink wink* (10 games win 8-0 in a row please. Ta.)

Well, after all the bad words coming out of my mouth i am still happy and excited towards the 2nd level.
Since i dropped to #4 I have decided to change formation.
Used to be 3-2-3-2 and on 2nd season will be 4-2-1-2-1
Good luck

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Originally Posted by hod

Well, after all the bad words coming out of my mouth i am still happy and excited towards the 2nd level.
Since i dropped to #4 I have decided to change formation.
Used to be 3-2-3-2 and on 2nd season will be 4-2-1-2-1
Good luck

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I think the problem was the formation that you used: 3-2-3-2. I tested that formation among my sub-accounts, it did not work well and lost most of the time.

I guess TE11 doesn't like 3-2-3-2.
I hope my new format 4-2-1-2-1 (some may call it 4-3-3) will be better.
good luck all