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Honestly at some point you have to say enough is enough. Not only 3 injuries, but the moment the injuries occured i subbed the player, it took 10 minutes of the game to make the substitution happen?

Im not even trying to say injuries shouldnt happen, but this is from the start of the season and including these, my 14th injury of the season. ITS DAY 7. I just dont know what im doing wrong, all fully fit full morale never get trained, normal atking. I just cant comprehend it, why so many? And ofc it happened before my important CL game and my next 3 league matches are all vs the top contenders for the league this season.


And the game itself was a dud, my striker missed 11 one on ones with the keeper. 11. I dominated the game but yet for a dude for who scores 35-40 goals a season, he cant find the back of the net this season

he was using hard tackle against you... maybe? check match then.. much more tackles I guess. lucky 4 him he didn't get any booking. Troll!!!!

What level of pitch do you have?

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What level of pitch do you have?

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I'm not sure the Pitch level plays a noticeable roll in this. My own is only lvl 1... and yet, I've only gotten 2 injuries this season (and only about 7 last season).

I do keep my team at a high condition though, before starting anything really -- be it a match, or a simple stretching. I think that bit really do help. And it's been also confirmed by Nordeus recently.
But then again, the skeptics will still call out "a big and blunt fake!" Wouldn't they ? : )

I think there are several things that go into injury likelihood, actually:

I think physical stats (fitness, strength) I like mine to be as high or higher than primary skill stats.
Training/Matches in the previous server day.
Yes, pitch. I mean it. Look at the last page of my team showcase and tell me it doesn't make an argument for it. Go ahead.
Condition, morale, and whether or not there is an arrow or OOP.

I *rarely* get unexpected injuries. I just PTed the heck out of them, and EXPECTEDLY the guys with less Fit/stam to skills and older guys got injured.

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I *rarely* get unexpected injuries. I just PTed the heck out of them, and EXPECTEDLY the guys with less Fit/stam to skills and older guys got injured.

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I've noticed this too. Only my weakest players tend to get injured. Many people are saying the exact opposite though. In my experience however, the Physical Stats must play some roll in it as well, yes. It could hardly be a coincidence.

Anyways, let's check that pitch data of yours. Might make me a believer, : )

My pitch is the best it can be currently for me. Level 3 ( Cant go higher till i upgrade others ) I have actually made that my main focus, keeping that as high as i can.

No arrows on any player, and none of those injuries resulted in freekicks.
All max morale + condition ( 90%+)
I dont train inbetween matches too many chances for injury.
The players who got injured are my players who probably have the best well balanced stats, my mc is like 30/30/30 average same for my dmc, think my dc is abit more defense focused.

So 14 injuries in 7 days to me doesnt seem right

I agree with you Slickz, but my advice to you is to SELL guys that get injured more than once. really. At your level that's what I did. Everything else you do, it seems unfair and trolly for sure, but you cannot count on the other guy's not having crappy turf and hard tackle...

That means i have to tell 8 of my starting 11. Since my striker got injured 5 times last season and still netted 37 goals. My mc this is his 3rd injury in 3 weeks. And the list keeps going...



But thanks for the advice :3 Ill start removing some of them

Just checked your post Cat, and well it seems (at least to some extent) that it does prove extensive training with bad condition WILL yield some injuries. How many ? That is still unsure, naturally. But, how is those 2/3 injured players Physical & Mental compared to the rest of your squad ?

Furthermore, I don't see how that proves that the Pitch does play a noticeable role in injury (I do emphasis on the "noticeable" bit -- I don't deny it may be a rather "minor factor" in it). Did I miss something on your post ?

Well, possibly. Before I upgraded my pitch that same training routine would have yielded above 5 injuries, and then another couple next training, and a couple next game. So yeah, I think pitch helps. Can you train players to 0 percent condition WITHOUT injury? I can. Multiple players.

My players info is listed on my pages, but the players injured are all older, except Reeder who has perfectly even stats.


Oh yeah and even the game itself says it's so:
http://forum.topeleven.com/attachmen...team-pitch.jpg

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Can you train players to 0 percent condition WITHOUT injury? I can.

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I'll play with this a bit as soon as I've got some more tokens to spare, and post the result. Might help get to the bottom of it !

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Oh yeah and even the game itself says it's so:
http://forum.topeleven.com/top-eleve...team-pitch.jpg

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Yes, I can read too, : )

But, what do they mean by 40% ? Because if it's a flat 40% then, it would be possible to get to 100% and not ever have any injuries, wouldn't it ? Obviously, that isn't the case.

So that 40% decrease doesn't tell us much, if you ask me.

Well, for me before, it was about 10 injuries from such a session overall including next day.

This last time it was 6.

:)

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You can see all but Bobo low by my standards on phys stats. These guys bench guys often, again, barring Bobo. Reeder had played two matches that day i think, and Bobo had been PTing before that session.

LoL, guess that settles it then ! I'll get back to you as soon as I've got some data of my own, : )

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You sure weren't kidding about preferring Physical & Mental over everything else, nice ! I'll try it out and see if I notice any change.

If there were ever an offseason in T11 my guys would play ice hockey. They are *strong*. :)

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Honestly at some point you have to say enough is enough. Not only 3 injuries, but the moment the injuries occured i subbed the player, it took 10 minutes of the game to make the substitution happen?

Im not even trying to say injuries shouldnt happen, but this is from the start of the season and including these, my 14th injury of the season. ITS DAY 7. I just dont know what im doing wrong, all fully fit full morale never get trained, normal atking. I just cant comprehend it, why so many? And ofc it happened before my important CL game and my next 3 league matches are all vs the top contenders for the league this season.


And the game itself was a dud, my striker missed 11 one on ones with the keeper. 11. I dominated the game but yet for a dude for who scores 35-40 goals a season, he cant find the back of the net this season

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Fire your first team trainer/physician. He is causing all the injuries.

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If there were ever an offseason in T11 my guys would play ice hockey. They are *strong*. :)

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A football player is never strong enough for ice hockey! I played for the past 13 years, 3 times a week, every week, even through the summer and they couldnt handle the physical aspect necessary for playing the game.

Can you imagine a football player being hit and rolling around on the ice holding his face, even though he has a full facemask??? What a fackin joke! Watched Nani and ManUre lose yesterday and saw Nani/Micheal Jackson roll around like his leg was broken on a typical check by the WBA player. Disgraceful!

So are we now saying we need strong physical/mental to avoid/get less injuries?

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So are we now saying we need strong physical/mental to avoid/get less injuries?

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I'm currently testing it on another thread. The data I've got so far is rather... surprising. Will need more to confirm anything.

http://forum.topeleven.com/top-eleve...ting-data.html

4 injuries for me today. Of course just when I have a big cup game, which are hard enough to win with a full roster, and tomorrow morning I have one of the better teams in my league to play.

And of course all the injuries are to first teamers. Both my strikers, scout bought and both my defensive midfielders. 2 of whom are pretty much integral to my team.

What really grinds my gears..to a halt, is that I'll go a week, longer sometimes, without an injury, and then I get 3, 4 or more at the same time. Granted I'm only 4 seasons in, but I've yet to experience just 1 injury and then recovery. As soon as 1 player gets injured, the sweats start when I worry about who is next. And they got me good this time.

One thing I think I've noticed is that some players are just more or less prone to injury than others, visible stats are irrelevant. I've had a player in my first team, who I bought right at the start of my first season. He dominates my matches, even though hes had the lowest attributes in my first team for a couple of seasons, 15 points below some players. He's a midfielder, is my top goal scorer, top assists, and top rating. And with all that heavy duty, he's been injured 1 time in 3 and a bit seasons. I've had other players injured 4 times in a season.

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4 injuries for me today. Of course just when I have a big cup game, which are hard enough to win with a full roster, and tomorrow morning I have one of the better teams in my league to play.

And of course all the injuries are to first teamers. Both my strikers, scout bought and both my defensive midfielders. 2 of whom are pretty much integral to my team.

What really grinds my gears..to a halt, is that I'll go a week, longer sometimes, without an injury, and then I get 3, 4 or more at the same time. Granted I'm only 4 seasons in, but I've yet to experience just 1 injury and then recovery. As soon as 1 player gets injured, the sweats start when I worry about who is next. And they got me good this time.

One thing I think I've noticed is that some players are just more or less prone to injury than others, visible stats are irrelevant. I've had a player in my first team, who I bought right at the start of my first season. He dominates my matches, even though hes had the lowest attributes in my first team for a couple of seasons, 15 points below some players. He's a midfielder, is my top goal scorer, top assists, and top rating. And with all that heavy duty, he's been injured 1 time in 3 and a bit seasons. I've had other players injured 4 times in a season.

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I agree, I had 2 of my 4 MCs injured on the same day 3 days ago, both for 5 days, and yesterday the 3rd MC of mine gets injured for 6 days. Funny how its only my MCs getting injured out of 18 other players in other positions. 3 out of 22 get injured in the past days, all over 5 days injured and all MCs. Ya think this is random??!?!?!?!

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I agree, I had 2 of my 4 MCs injured on the same day 3 days ago, both for 5 days, and yesterday the 3rd MC of mine gets injured for 6 days. Funny how its only my MCs getting injured out of 18 other players in other positions. 3 out of 22 get injured in the past days, all over 5 days injured and all MCs. Ya think this is random??!?!?!?!

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Call me lucky bastard, but I'm not having this sort of bad luck, : ) (even after PT'ing my players like hell)

I got 1 MC that got injured twice this season, I sold him ASAP (since he's really of a sub)...

And yes, it could totally be random. But "IS" it random? That, I really don't know, I have nothing to determine it.

1. Try to improve pitch condition of yours and it surely reduces injuries...
2. Game attendance!!!!!
3. Stadium capacity...
4. Even the Morale of the player.
5. Then maintain about 60% of health... its quite good enough!!! :)
6. Luck!!!!

And another injury today. Of course to another 1st team player. So that's 5 injuries in 2 days. What a great two days I've had. Two draws and a defeat(all to weaker teams obviously). The two draws crushed my morale. But with the injuries to key players I was prioritising getting health packs. And then I log in just now because my CL match is in an hour, and I'm hoping to score some morale packs prior to boost players, and my oponent has changed kickoff time for match. down 1 nil, with 1st half just about over and half my team have only got good morale. Oh and of course my opponent is 11 points below me in quality. And he wins, obviously. And my new scout bought player gets a 4. yay! Wasted all my tokens, and sold one of my other players for the cash, to basically buy an expensive dud who has bombed in his first three matches.

Also gotta love my scout bought world class keeper this season. He's let in more goals in 7 games than my keeper(who I bought in the beginning of season 2) last season let in the whole league.

Oh oh, plus waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaargh.

Edit: actually he didn't change the kickoff time, I forgot, for the past couple of weeks the time on my computer keeps changing. I've had to correct it about ten times now.

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And another injury today. Of course to another 1st team player. So that's 5 injuries in 2 days. What a great two days I've had. Two draws and a defeat(all to weaker teams obviously). The two draws crushed my morale. But with the injuries to key players I was prioritising getting health packs. And then I log in just now because my CL match is in an hour, and I'm hoping to score some morale packs prior to boost players, and my oponent has changed kickoff time for match. down 1 nil, with 1st half just about over and half my team have only got good morale. Oh and of course my opponent is 11 points below me in quality. And he wins, obviously. And my new scout bought player gets a 4. yay! Wasted all my tokens, and sold one of my other players for the cash, to basically buy an expensive dud who has bombed in his first three matches.

Also gotta love my scout bought world class keeper this season. He's let in more goals in 7 games than my keeper(who I bought in the beginning of season 2) last season let in the whole league.

Oh oh, plus waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaargh.

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There's a vent thread for this kind of posts.

Yep, I can't decide if this belongs in Vent or is it an injury thread?

It's definitely an injury post. It's just the injury is to my mental health.

-LOL-

:p

Hehe, : )

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Edit: actually he didn't change the kickoff time, I forgot, for the past couple of weeks the time on my computer keeps changing. I've had to correct it about ten times now.

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That could be a virus. : ( Run your Anti-Malware as soon as you can !

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Yep, I can't decide if this belongs in Vent or is it an injury thread?

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Lately, I'm feeling that ALL injury threads ARE vent threads...

Can't blame people for venting about it, though. I myself would vent pretty vigorously and passionately, if I were to lose 3 of my MCs, :)

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Lately, I'm feeling that ALL injury threads ARE vent threads...

Can't blame people for venting about it, though. I myself would vent pretty vigorously and passionately, if I were to lose 3 of my MCs, :)

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If I wasnt in the running for 1st place, I wouldnt give a **** who gets injured, but I am in first place and it just seems like a typical Nordeus brainfart in their programming that targets your best players for injury and yellow/red cards for suspensions. I know its all part of the game, but some things just look damn fishy.

It would be like Gerrard, Coutinho, and Lucas all being injured in the same game. Highly unlikely. but maybe likely for a day(week) or two for a niggle or something minor, but 5-6 days(weeks) for all 3 MCs???