Champions League HELL

I finished top of my table last season so i have reach the champions league and went to level - 10
so why have i join a champion league with a group of people who are level - 11 ... there is no chance ill win against them because they can have better rate of players and quality that i cant match... were is the equality in that?
My team isn't rubbish as i'm top of my league without a lose so far with only one draw and a great good goal difference, far better than anyone else in the league... im out of the champion league now and yes i lost out so why moawn but I only wont this question answered
Where is the equality and logic to put me in that position with 11's ... surly level 10 should play level 10's right?

No. As with real Champions League the representatives from the top leagues (England, Spain, Germany for example) are better quality teams than teams from Turkey, Czech, or Russia i.e. This is why the mixing of different levels in T11 Champs League.

but to be competative you have to have 50-50 chance team frmo real life buy player to attract them in havent that option given what i get and no choice of a 11 level scout that i can bring in on a one off look at West Ham ... Carroll was a big deal ... Everton .. Lukaku on loan there big signing for them Arsenal you expect a big name Ozil Tottrnham Soldado Pauldinho .. get my drift ...

The problem is you are near the top of your server, you must be the best Q of your level, so they put you with the next level.

A good way to get some control over your upcoming league strenght:

When you start a season and feel you can compete with the rest in your league (move up next league, qualify for CL/Cup) DON'T spend the skill points until the season is finished. At that point your Q will be matched with an according League. Then you simply use your saved up skill points to a) get SA's or Positions or b) get your avarage Q up to a competitive level.

To be honest: I'm trying this the first time but i got that tip from an experienced Manager.

Good luck.

A higher level competition means more money per game, so although you have been knocked out at the group stage, the 6 games you did play probably earnt you 50% more* than you would have earnt at a lower level.

So you're not really losing money, if you could have made the knockout rounds you would have likely made more money.

* Based on my Cup competition this season vs my gf's cup competition this season


Although of course, your chances of filling up your trophy cabinet is a bit more difficult, but if you did win you'd have more bragging rights since you would have beaten the higher level managers. As said previously, if you wait until the start of a season, you can lower your level so it's less likely to happen

But imo, it's good to try and get into the more difficult competitions (Which realistically have a similar level of player to you, so rather than being difficult, are simply "not easy" and a little bit challenging). If you modify your formations to what is most effective vs each team, you can overcome most teams, even if they have slightly better players.


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I really do not understand what is your problem with that, i have the same thing in my cup draw, i am level 4 and i am facing level 5 managers, and for you to know i already eliminate 2 of them, so it is possible to win.

The only diference is that you normaly win because you have the better Team and not because you know who to use the better tactic and orders.

I have noticed similar problem last 2 years (months in RL :) ) on my server. Could be the server participants are at their limit so there are not enough people to fill the league (CL) in the level above you. It's crap I know. I'm just gonna earn money and see what happens next month when I end up staying at same level.

i feel to much has be altered buy into the game and get shut out

thanks peeps for the help and advice

It's the price to pay for be over-greeding in your last season and pulling out a lv9 team on a whole diff Q than the normal/strong ones. As price for easy roflstomping everything back there, have a taste of your own medicine, they say.

Actually for once i agree with this organization of things.

When you power up your team, actually try to evuate what level of strenght you can reach compared with the top notch cup teams. If even spending all makes you still weaker, then spare and adjust your Q to only what you need to win league/cl. You might struggle a lil more but next season you wont be in a pinch.

In the cup I play teams two levels above me, I'm level 4 playing level 6. I've yet to win the cup. Tonight I just scraped through to the Qf on away goals, scoring 4 minutes from the end to win 2-1 at home. Having lost 3-2 away.

I didn't know it happened with the CL as well. I guess my team isn't strong enough to play tougher Cl opponents.

It's interesting that with the League and the Champions league the winners are the best teams on the level you're at. Whereas with the cup the winners will tend to be the worst players on that level. So everybody has a decent chance of winning something at least.

I imagine with each level increase it gets that bit harder to win the cup. Last season I got the sickest draw. Every round I was getting the highest quality team around, while the top half of draw had all the low quality teams. Hopefully this is the year. I really want to get a cup win under my belt, otherwise it will become that burden, a curse bearing down on my managerial shoulders. I'll start seeing some of my players as cup jonahs. The dressing room will be all tense. Then the hairdryer will come out.

I'd like to avoid that trauma drama.

Really the only way to win the Cup is an increase in your teams Q after the Cup draw, get the draw, improve key guys, maybe buy some, and you have a chance. I am not sure if the strategy of saving Skill Points from last season, and then applying them after the draw works. (I am trying that with an alt team) but I know PTing a few guys after the draw can do it... that's how I got my Cup.

CL is your level unless there's not enough on your server, then you get tossed into whatever league is closest to your Q, I think.


P.S. I've been knocked out of Cup early pretty much ever since.

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Really the only way to win the Cup is an increase in your teams Q after the Cup draw, get the draw, improve key guys, maybe buy some, and you have a chance. I am not sure if the strategy of saving Skill Points from last season, and then applying them after the draw works. (I am trying that with an alt team) but I know PTing a few guys after the draw can do it... that's how I got my Cup.

CL is your level unless there's not enough on your server, then you get tossed into whatever league is closest to your Q, I think.


P.S. I've been knocked out of Cup early pretty much ever since.

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Are you kidding me? The CL is almost as unfair to me as the cup most seasons, but this season is insane for CL. My 1/8 draw is the strongest team in the competition at a 70Q, while I am 55Q. he is 6* Q as a team and is a full scout team playing 4-1-2-1-2 ND.

My ONLY hope is a troll result.

what pisses me off more is that its always a facking Turkish team named Gala or Fene. I dont see loads of ManUre scout teams or Gooner scout teams, but tons of Fenerbace and Galatsaray scout teams. Is there more $$$ in Turkey these days?

Maybe there are more videos etc to watch in Turkey. e.g. I hear about other people watching videos for tokens, but for my region I wasn't able to find any. So that might be why their teams are particularly strong.

lol I'm playing a guy tomorrow morning, in the cup, who is 3 levels above me (he's 5, I'm 2). Although I think it'll be one of my easier games, as looking at the amount of money he has vs the value of his team, he hasn't been playing for quite some time lol (He has ~$23M, but his team is only worth ~$4M).

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Are you kidding me? The CL is almost as unfair to me as the cup most seasons, but this season is insane for CL. My 1/8 draw is the strongest team in the competition at a 70Q, while I am 55Q. he is 6* Q as a team and is a full scout team playing 4-1-2-1-2 ND.

My ONLY hope is a troll result.

what pisses me off more is that its always a facking Turkish team named Gala or Fene. I dont see loads of ManUre scout teams or Gooner scout teams, but tons of Fenerbace and Galatsaray scout teams. Is there more $$$ in Turkey these days?

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That is because there are token buyers in your server as in every other. Compared to power trainers or full scout main teams, it's more like your team is missing quality.

As someone who probably has the WORST personal trainer/token buyer server possible, my New Team is level 9 and as token buyer my Q is nearing 70( due to a tanked season also), but in my CL last 16 the weakest team playing has a 56.0 Q while the other ones sits on 60+ and not all of them are token buyers. If you play at level 9 like your sig shows then q55 cant possibly cut you a chanche, after all the CL should be hard after the first group.

If you are a totally free player or rely on just few tokens (70ish) purchased you should consider to make a team on a new server. My alt team is level 8 on the same new team's server but with less than 65 tokens i was able to purchase 18 yo and overall all players missing few points fir their 6*. Even a free player could make a good team. As proof the average quality of my opponents in lv8 is 51-60 and only the abandoned ones are below 50. Which makes things pretty daln competitive and harsh.

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Originally Posted by HateMeNow

That is because there are token buyers in your server as in every other. Compared to power trainers or full scout main teams, it's more like your team is missing quality.

As someone who probably has the WORST personal trainer/token buyer server possible, my New Team is level 9 and as token buyer my Q is nearing 70( due to a tanked season also), but in my CL last 16 the weakest team playing has a 56.0 Q while the other ones sits on 60+ and not all of them are token buyers. If you play at level 9 like your sig shows then q55 cant possibly cut you a chanche, after all the CL should be hard after the first group.

If you are a totally free player or rely on just few tokens (70ish) purchased you should consider to make a team on a new server. My alt team is level 8 on the same new team's server but with less than 65 tokens i was able to purchase 18 yo and overall all players missing few points fir their 6*. Even a free player could make a good team. As proof the average quality of my opponents in lv8 is 51-60 and only the abandoned ones are below 50. Which makes things pretty daln competitive and harsh.

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I'm may not be top quality but I am hardly MISSING quality. I have a 4* team, which is tanking this season, but all his players are over 70Q and 7*. I am not the best in my league, but I am hardly the worst and I am middle of the pack in the CL, but one of the better in the cup.

http://i42.tinypic.com/k9umpx.png

There are 3 total token buyers in my CL and this one is the best of the 3. I had a chance against any of the others as they were all below 60Q.

I think the higher you go in level, the better scouts teams there will be. This guy pictured above is the best team I have ever seen in any of my leagues, CL or Cup.

I hope I dont see many more

Yeah he has a good time likewise my Q and team value, meaning he's around 500-600 T worth.

But alas be aware that that is still normal, at least for me. For hardcore as you say, i consider this on my server:

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Respectively, all 9* 11+reserves limiter only by max Q allowed (1sp from 10*), all 9* + 8* bench and so on. All of them have few 5* and 6* players too including the 80q one, meaning the real q is even higher.

That is hardcore, craciot!

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I really do not understand what is your problem with that, i have the same thing in my cup draw, i am level 4 and i am facing level 5 managers, and for you to know i already eliminate 2 of them, so it is possible to win.

The only diference is that you normaly win because you have the better Team and not because you know who to use the better tactic and orders.

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sorry, this is a rubbish post....
also, i inform you that we already have a TSSO...
speak later... when you reach lvl > 10

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Originally Posted by HateMeNow

Yeah he has a good time likewise my Q and team value, meaning he's around 500-600 T worth.

But alas be aware that that is still normal, at least for me. For hardcore as you say, i consider this on my server:

http://s22.postimg.org/fkzlisrfl/image.jpg
host immagini

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upload immagini

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hostare immagini

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Respectively, all 9* 11+reserves limiter only by max Q allowed (1sp from 10*), all 9* + 8* bench and so on. All of them have few 5* and 6* players too including the 80q one, meaning the real q is even higher.

That is hardcore, craciot!

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I am not debating that there are serious tommys in every league, cup or CL, I am sympathizing with the OP (remember him? this is his thread) that there is hardly any competition that is fair as you get up into levels higher than 7. It is the luck of the draw to see if you get put with a good fair group.

That being said, if your Quality is higher than managers of your level, you will be, and should be put with managers of a higher level. It is just like the cup draw. Sorry OPer, Nordeus has their heads up their asses at times. Their organizational skills suck at the best of times.