Someone try to convince me this isn't proof of complete game randomness.

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02-24-2014
Greg Graliex

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Someone try to convince me this isn't proof of complete game randomness.

This is the home and away during the CL group stage:

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02-24-2014
Siddharth Shanker Singh

The game engine is just messed up this season even more...I too have got trolled this season many number of times...
And one thing I noticed is that I have lost nearly every game that I have not watch inspite of having 15% possession...
02-24-2014
Saransh Vatsa

Sorry I can't convince u of something that is not true...... The game engine is totally random.
02-24-2014
spornybol

i had 75 possession in my last 16 of champions league after they scored 4th min they had only MC sent off in 19th minute yet they scored 2 more and i lost 1st leg 3-1 ?? and they was not even there to watch and no supporter`s yet i was there and had 4 supporters

I`d like to report Nordeus for bringing the game into nonsensical randomness
02-24-2014
Siddharth Shanker Singh

Quote:

Originally Posted by spornybol

i had 75 possession in my last 16 of champions league after they scored 4th min they had only MC sent off in 19th minute yet they scored 2 more and i lost 1st leg 3-1 ?? and they was not even there to watch and no supporter`s yet i was there and had 4 supporters

I`d like to report Nordeus for bringing the game into nonsensical randomness

I too lost me Champions League last 16 round at home 3-1 to a team of lesser quality than me...
02-24-2014
Celtic

People, again, there's no such thing as a "game engine", this is neither a car nor a real game.

Just some hundreds of lines of code with variables and conditions to favor what's best in their monetizing interest.

(last time I wrote this, the post was deleted).
02-24-2014
Saransh Vatsa

Quote:

Originally Posted by Celtic

People, again, there's no such thing as a "game engine", this is neither a car nor a real game.

Just some hundreds of lines of code with variables and conditions to favor what's best in their monetizing interest.

(last time I wrote this, the post was deleted).

They just imported the .util package in java and used the Random Number Genertor. That's it!!!
02-24-2014
Skidz

I had 3 people watching my game CL game yesterday 49.9 v 50.2 I was at home yet he dominated the match I lost 2-0 and had a 3 players booked and 1 sent off in the last 10mins.
02-24-2014
Dman2pt

I also lost yesterday 4:1 away against a 5Q lower team.

But i won at home in LEAGUE against a full scout team, 10Q higher, without even watching 2:1

It seems it was troll day for the stronguest teams!
02-24-2014
fugazi

Quote:

Originally Posted by Celtic

People, again, there's no such thing as a "game engine", this is neither a car nor a real game.

Just some hundreds of lines of code with variables and conditions to favor what's best in their monetizing interest.

(last time I wrote this, the post was deleted).

The fact that it doesn't (get deleted) now is an obvious sign this game has reached its zenith, or apex in users. That usually means it's time to focus on getting as much out of it as possible for the devs. They start to invest less and less effort, as it's already past its prime. They'll be focussing more on new projects as this game ain't likely going to get better then it is now. (for its stakeholders)

I wish I would have found this game sooner, assuming it once was better? Perhaps the veteran managers here can answer that. Has this negativity always been here, or is it sth quite recent? I think the concept is briliant, if tactics and so on would really work. It's a great format to start from.
02-24-2014
brunom14

my gut feeling after 6 seasons is that, at a certain period of the season, the game is programmed to keep some "suspense" within the leagues. To take my example, I am currently at first position of my league after easily kicking the teams in the Top 4. So yesterday, the "engine" decided I'd be trolled by the 8th team (at home, only me watching, 10Q less for my opponent, etc...), bringing the top 4 teams to 4 points difference.
If I were the guy who easily panics and who thinks his life depends on this game, I'd spend money on tokens in order to buy scouts... which I am obviously NOT going to do.

Your experience might be different than mine, but it's been typical for me over the last 3 seasons.
02-24-2014
JohnnyBravo

I just played a team 2 stars below my level.

He played 3N-3N(DMC)-2(DC)-1(AMC)-1 and I used 3-1-4-2.

So he scored the first goal and instantly switched his formation to this:

----GK----
DL-DC-DC-DC-DR
----DMC-DMC----
------MC-MC-----
--------ST--------

Then I scored 1-1. He then switched to another formation:

DL-DC-DC-DR
DML-DMC----
--------DC-MR
AML-----------
------ST------

Somehow he managed to score a second goal and instantly switched to a more defensive formation. I dont remember since I was like "WHAT THE F!@K?!" :P

Fun Game indeed!
02-24-2014
meis

Another day, another troll match. Someone should start a page called "Top Eleven is random" or something along those lines on facebook to dedicate this.

http://i.imgur.com/YqeXmk8.png

http://i.imgur.com/L5WpiCE.png

Does it really matter that F MUCH, wide or narrow at the middle there, really?!? Me being second (the dude in the 1st spot is a 9 star team, b2w, so forget it) in the league, getting a point from a team at the last spot, definitely made my day...

Later tonight in CL, my opponent use 4-3w-1-2 and is one of my nightmare formation...
02-24-2014
usunfgames

I can tell you what will answer nordeus "support" -> "while strong team in real footbal loose from weaker we will try to be close to real footbal" :D.Thye missed the fact that strong team can loose time to time from weaker yea true,but in the end of year strong team gets cups,leages,champions leage.I have people in friend list,last 10 season noone from them won cup.Last 2 season each game is surprise so i think that nordeus do new footbal world where if strong team win vs weak its not normal.
02-24-2014
usunfgames

Quote:

Originally Posted by meis

Another day, another troll match. Someone should start a page called "Top Eleven is random" or something along those lines on facebook to dedicate this.

http://i.imgur.com/YqeXmk8.png

http://i.imgur.com/L5WpiCE.png

Does it really matter that F MUCH, wide or narrow at the middle there, really?!? Me being second (the dude in the 1st spot is a 9 star team, b2w, so forget it) in the league, getting a point from a team at the last spot, definitely made my day...

Later tonight in CL, my opponent use 4-3w-1-2 and is one of my nightmare formation...

As i can see you spend some money for this "footbal simulation game".Now question is will you spend anymore if you cant win vs much much weaker team ....
02-24-2014
Celtic

Quote:

Originally Posted by fugazi

The fact that it doesn't (get deleted) now is an obvious sign this game has reached its zenith, or apex in users. That usually means it's time to focus on getting as much out of it as possible for the devs. They start to invest less and less effort, as it's already past its prime. They'll be focussing more on new projects as this game ain't likely going to get better then it is now. (for its stakeholders)

I wish I would have found this game sooner, assuming it once was better? Perhaps the veteran managers here can answer that. Has this negativity always been here, or is it sth quite recent? I think the concept is briliant, if tactics and so on would really work. It's a great format to start from.

Good question, and yes, you're right in the first paragraph.

The game apex was reached last year, from here on it's free fall. I have many friends quitting, acknowledging this is only a money thing.

Mark my words.

Quote:

Originally Posted by brunom14

my gut feeling after 6 seasons is that, at a certain period of the season, the game is programmed to keep some "suspense" within the leagues. To take my example, I am currently at first position of my league after easily kicking the teams in the Top 4. So yesterday, the "engine" decided I'd be trolled by the 8th team (at home, only me watching, 10Q less for my opponent, etc...), bringing the top 4 teams to 4 points difference.
If I were the guy who easily panics and who thinks his life depends on this game, I'd spend money on tokens in order to buy scouts... which I am obviously NOT going to do.

Your experience might be different than mine, but it's been typical for me over the last 3 seasons.

From level 4 or 5 on it becomes like that indeed.

Quote:

Originally Posted by usunfgames

I can tell you what will answer nordeus "support" -> "while strong team in real footbal loose from weaker we will try to be close to real footbal" :D.Thye missed the fact that strong team can loose time to time from weaker yea true,but in the end of year strong team gets cups,leages,champions leage.I have people in friend list,last 10 season noone from them won cup.Last 2 season each game is surprise so i think that nordeus do new footbal world where if strong team win vs weak its not normal.

Precisely.
02-24-2014
rastaman70

you are but a few people who speak the truth, but nobody is listening. that is a crying shame.
02-24-2014
masyaf

I'd better buy some beautiful gun skin in CS:GO than buy tokens any more.
02-24-2014
Eddy Milan

Quote:

Originally Posted by masyaf

I'd better buy some beautiful gun skin in CS:GO than buy tokens any more.

Yeah , thats another way to spend some money :P
02-25-2014
fugazi

We should all ask ourselves, why in the name of ... is it necesary for the game to reward us with a posessionbonus in the first place for watching/coaching our own games?

The biggest clue of all is staring us in our faces all along.
02-28-2014
Johan Gt Winther

Really hope that isnt true.I just started want to play alot more before it gets really bad.They get loads of cash from managers so really hope they use some of that to improve game instead :-)

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