Fast trainer turning out to be a flop

Dumb luck or just bad tactics?

I bought 2 very expensive fast trainers this season - I'm at level 6

ST, Age 20, Value $10.1M, Salary $230K, 5* (48)
MR/AMR, Age 18, Value $8.3M, Salary $220K, 4* (43)

Both can train on average 120/70/30 (from memory)

However, both suck even in friendly matches...even tho they score/provide assists, the game rates them 5-6. Most of the time their names are not mentioned in the commentary. Think I got the bad end of the bargain, twice, with these purchases.

Thinking of continuing to train them and see how they perform next season.

Anyone experiencing something similar?

Sure, even more expensive than yours because I was level 5, spent my whole budget on this crap:
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Best rating he had in the whole season was... 5! lol

They are not that expensive...
At level 6 I bought 2 players - one 14.5 million and other 14.7 million...

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Originally Posted by Siddharth Shanker Singh

They are not that expensive...
At level 6 I bought 2 players - one 14.5 million and other 14.7 million...

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Never encountered any youth worth > $11M in my server...

But they question is, did they flop?

Since they are not that much expensive, they are definitely not NORDEUS generated so chance are they can be a flop...

But persist with them for 9,10 matches and play them the whole match and do not change there positions and even after this they are not performing then yes they are flops...

One more if you play attacking then increase there attack more than there physical and defense...

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Originally Posted by Siddharth Shanker Singh

Since they are not that much expensive, they are definitely not NORDEUS generated so chance are they can be a flop...

But persist with them for 9,10 matches and play them the whole match and do not change there positions and even after this they are not performing then yes they are flops...

One more if you play attacking then increase there attack more than there physical and defense...

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So I take it yours weren't flops... since this is the third time I am asking... ;)

Thanks for the tips...Im still being very patient with them...

What I have found is very much like Siddarth is suggesting, they come to you quite even in their attributes and it takes some playing and training to assign them points so that they work for your style of play. I pretty much only buy fast trainers on BvB, and sometimes they are awesome right out of the gate, (usually ST's) but mostly they need a little fiddling with before your get their best results.

So from what you can Siddarth is suggesting, the best way is probably to have them attacking-heavy in attribute before balancing out the physical/defensive side of the player...I'll take that into consideration.

I tend to even them out and then start building their primary skills and physical up above that. I press whole pitch all the time though so I want them to be high on that column. :)

First of all, on my server Nordeus generates all kind of players, mostly 18-21, but I've seen older players as well, ranging from expensive to extremely expensive.

Perhaps the relationship to the overall Q of your team has any relevance. In my high end team with a 6* studded 1st squad my most expensive fast trainers, usually a few lvls weaker don't perform. My other 3* avg team on the same lvl has 3 expensive fast trainers as well. They are 5* playing in a 3* team and are flying, all of them. I've supplemented that team with bargain 3* fast trainers and they all perform as well. Perhaps to maximize your rewards with these players, you have to enable them to also be the best in their team, or at least not the weakest. In my high end team they were always catching up, while being by far the strongest in my other. They also play weaker competition btw, adding to that effect.

For ST and defenders the stats are perhaps a little flat out of the box, and I'll be tweaking that but as mentioned it takes time.

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Originally Posted by fugazi

First of all, on my server Nordeus generates all kind of players, mostly 18-21, but I've seen older players as well, ranging from expensive to extremely expensive.

Perhaps the relationship to the overall Q of your team has any relevance. In my high end team with a 6* studded 1st squad my most expensive fast trainers, usually a few lvls weaker don't perform. My other 3* avg team on the same lvl has 3 expensive fast trainers as well. They are 5* playing in a 3* team and are flying, all of them. I've supplemented that team with bargain 3* fast trainers and they all perform as well. Perhaps to maximize your rewards with these players, you have to enable them to also be the best in their team, or at least not the weakest. In my high end team they were always catching up, while being by far the strongest in my other. They also play weaker competition btw, adding to that effect.

For ST and defenders the stats are perhaps a little flat out of the box, and I'll be tweaking that but as mentioned it takes time.

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Does makes sense...my team is quite balanced tho. My players rating range from 39-52. So actually the two players I mentioned are in the higher rated bracket. My habit in assigning cones is to have the core attributes +3 in relation to physical & mental. So maybe I'll try to increase this to +5 or more and see what happens then before assigning it to the physical & mental attributes. Anyway I haven't really used them a lot, but in the 2-3 competitive matches against whipping boys in which they played 70 mins or so, they rated 5-6. One of them rated 4 playing 90 minutes friendly although he came up with an assist...

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Originally Posted by Siddharth Shanker Singh

Since they are not that much expensive, they are definitely not NORDEUS generated so chance are they can be a flop...

But persist with them for 9,10 matches and play them the whole match and do not change there positions and even after this they are not performing then yes they are flops...

One more if you play attacking then increase there attack more than there physical and defense...

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Precisely: Attachment 20369 half my team is made of nord Gen(with special atributes) and the other half young talents from my own academy. the academy youngsters are training incredibly good , very fast. My point is no matter what keep your 24tokens youngsters and stick to your tactics . This is my second season wich im using this formation and its rewarding. Yes you can loose some matches but if you give credit to your players specially youngsters they will reward you at some point sooner or later. I had troubles with much lower q managers wich were using same tactics and formations and learned my lesson. And now Im winning everything. I never
bought scouts, i rather keep my academy youngsters wich in time are more rewarding. Cheers mate AND BBTOTM#

I just bought a 5 millions something player aged 18 years old from transfer market which is very expensive at my level. I am level 4 manager and accumulated 240 skill points after today league match and this is his second match. Is this type of player Nordeus generated? How to determine precisely the player Nordeus generated or not aside from the player cost?

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Originally Posted by Kazouma

I just bought a 5 millions something player aged 18 years old from transfer market which is very expensive at my level. I am level 4 manager and accumulated 240 skill points after today league match and this is his second match. Is this type of player Nordeus generated? How to determine precisely the player Nordeus generated or not aside from the player cost?

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usually Nord gens spawn with special atributes and after you have bought them try and see if the managers details are available, if not thats a nord gen