Scout Players THE TRUTH!!!.

I have decided to right this as I keep seeing so many simular threads about managers buying scout players and then being dissapointed with their rarings! and overall performance!.

I play with many scouts and have done for many seasons so I feel I have learnt a very good ubderstanding on how they work! so here is a few tips!.

1 Buying a scout player DOES NOT GUARRANTEE he will score loads of goals, be man of the match or constantly have high ratings!.

2 Many factors come into play when buying a scout!, finding his best position he plays!, some of you buy a scout say MC play maker and play him MCR, this may not actually be his best position! he may play better MCL!.

3 Always check which foot he plays and try him in that side position first!, if no good try him on the otherside!.

4, A scout player does not always play good in the first season, he can sometimes be quite average so keep training him and he will come good in the second more than likely!

5 FORMATION. yes this does really matter!, only buy scout players that are helpful to your formation! i.e. say your playing a standard 4-4-2 but buy a ST who is a shadow striker!!!, this is absolutly pointless! as a shadow strikers special ability is best for AMC!, THINK, always study, think before you buy! if you want a ST scout then buy a ONE ON ONE or PENATLY specialist!, if you want a MC scout then buy a PLAYMAKER, DRIBBLER OR FREEKICK specialist!, if you want a defender the buy ARIEL OR DEFENSIVE WALL specialist, if you want a goalkeeper then buy a ONE ON ONE STOPPER etc!

6 To get maximum potential in a team of scouts here is the best team selection( in a perfect world) 4-4-2 formation.
Goalkeeper(one on one stopper), DL(ariel defender left footed)DC(defensive wall left footed)DC(defencive wall right footed)DR(ariel defender right footed) ML(DRIBBLER left footed) MC( playmaker left footed) MC( freekick specialist right footed) MR( dribbler right footed) ST( one on one left footed) ST( one on one/penalty specialist right footed).

7 never sell your scout after 6/7 games or less because you think he is no good due to low ratings!, all you are doing is wasting 50T and a lot of money and handing a very good player away!! someone else WILL get the best out of him!!!.

I hope I have given some light to scout players so go out and buy wisely! not fooleshly!! good luck and heres to have many happy times with players you enjoy!.

What I always say LOL
"No guarantees, your work is to be manager, so, manage like a manager."

good resume :D

In real life I've never seen wingbacks specialized in aerial defending, though. :P

It's a function mostly exclusive to centrebacks.

DL and DR defend the flanks, avoid crossings and also dribble through the flanks, having an offensive role as well.

Anyway, yeah, many scouts aren't worth the money.

Never had a bad scout yet in 6 seasons of using, them(I go by over all performance not just any given season).

The problem is most of them are old and cannot keep up with the team. They don't earn enough skill points.

Don't buy the old ones!, you can get them for 23-26 these are fine, at the end of the day there scouts with special ability so they do not need to train really fast but a lot do at different times, you have to allow that when you have many scouts only a few can get high ratings each game otherwise your team would be perfect and the game designers don't want to make it to easy and they need to make money some how.

I only bought the scouts of 22-23 age.. no more... maybe 1 or 2 of 24 but... if don't I prefeer a U21 younger... for me these players are guarantees of loyalty and good work (in my team :P )

A scout player these days would struggle to get into my starting XI.

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Originally Posted by July Fourth

A scout player these days would struggle to get into my starting XI.

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I don't power train like you do bro, your team will last longer than mine, I don't have the time to be training every hour, booster back for a few days to get them up to the quality I need, having a full team of scouts works well with my system.
My wife moans enough the time I spend on this game lol.

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Originally Posted by Celtic

Anyway, yeah, many scouts aren't worth the money.

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I think it's many scouts are worth the money, a small few are not worth it :)

Buying those that are 22-23 & rating x8 x9 or x3 x4, you can keep them for at least 4 seasons...by then they would probably still be 4 stars....

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Originally Posted by Skidz

1 Buying a scout player DOES NOT GUARRANTEE he will score loads of goals, be man of the match or constantly have high ratings!

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This is very true, but I think gamers are justified to expect a certain level of performance from their scout players...or a means of improving the standard of scouts in the game. I've had 3 scout players who would get 4 or 5 ratings regularly, when played in the correct position, although I'm not certain how many there are to try for strikers.
I think we are entitled to expect more than that from an investment of 50 tokens. In the end I've had to sell them off and get new players. A little unfair, in my opinion.

I would insert a screen shot of the one I currently have, and his 4 ratings, but it turns out I don't know how to put screen shots on here. :)

to point 6: The DL and DR need defense wall to prevent flanks and to defend against the wingers. The central defender definitely needs the heading ability. Against high balls from outside and corners to the middle of the box !!!!!!!!!!!!!! look in Real life. Lahm is a small player but he has awesome defence skills,blocking flanks and tackling . Vidic or Mertesacker are high player with good headability skills. they play DC

my 2 DC's in Top11 have both Ariel defender and they winning more of 90%+ of headduels

and If all else fails change his name to Saransh Vatsa lol !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! he might play better but he will talk too much lol


Unless he is a defender than change his name to Mr Skidz he will be the rock of the team !!!!!

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Originally Posted by russ2000_uk

This is very true, but I think gamers are justified to expect a certain level of performance from their scout players...or a means of improving the standard of scouts in the game. I've had 3 scout players who would get 4 or 5 ratings regularly, when played in the correct position, although I'm not certain how many there are to try for strikers.
I think we are entitled to expect more than that from an investment of 50 tokens. In the end I've had to sell them off and get new players. A little unfair, in my opinion.

I would insert a screen shot of the one I currently have, and his 4 ratings, but it turns out I don't know how to put screen shots on here. :)

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To put up a screen shot, use a PC/laptop, open up your T11 page, press the key that says PRTSC, go to the windows logo (bottom left of screen), select it and look in the menu for ACCESSORIES, open that then look for PAINT, open that, look for the menu that says PASTE,( TOP LEFT), this will open up you screen shot, now go back to TOP LEFT OF PAGE , select SAVE!, NOW GO TO TOP ELEVEN FORUM open the thread your commenting on then look for the little picture icon in the horizintal menu above your typing box!(third from the right). Choose BASIC UPLOADER, bottm right, then search in my computer, fin your saved file, OPEN IT, now select UPLOAD FILE.

As for your investment scout player, you must take the word INVESTMENT more seriously!, some scouts take a season to settle in!, sure he may seem to you he is poor but he WILL come good I assure you, have you never kept a scout for at least two seasons?, I dont thinks so because I have NEVER had a scout perform poor EVERY season.
50 T is alot, and the majority of scouts do perform well quickly, but you must think long term! not for now!.

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Originally Posted by Mo Meow Odom

and If all else fails change his name to Saransh Vatsa lol !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! he might play better but he will talk too much lol


Unless he is a defender than change his name to Mr Skidz he will be the rock of the team !!!!!

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Mo dont tell anyone how much Im paying you! lol, Master Blaster is great but I am a LEGEND!!!

You have a point although I have kept them for 2 seasons I the past and seen no improvement.
You see the problem with giving them an entire season is that they have shelf life of 4-5 seasons, if you're lucky. 3 in some cases. So it's likely you will waste 25% of their time in the squad...that's a huge amount.
Also, I don't know about other people, but a few 4 ratings is enough to cost me valuable league points against teams as good as I am. By the time this player has adapted I may already be out of the cup/too far behind in the league.
I'm afraid long-term rationale can only apply if players are going to improve quickly enough to stay in the squad longer. Which they don't.


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Originally Posted by russ2000_uk

You have a point although I have kept them for 2 seasons I the past and seen no improvement.
You see the problem with giving them an entire season is that they have shelf life of 4-5 seasons, if you're lucky. 3 in some cases. So it's likely you will waste 25% of their time in the squad...that's a huge amount.
Also, I don't know about other people, but a few 4 ratings is enough to cost me valuable league points against teams as good as I am. By the time this player has adapted I may already be out of the cup/too far behind in the league.
I'm afraid long-term rationale can only apply if players are going to improve quickly enough to stay in the squad longer. Which they don't.


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You must be really unlucky then!

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Player circled in RED not a scout!

Stats CIRCLED IN PURPLE stats 5 or under!.

As you can see there is not many players with stats of 5 or under! and only 1 player has more than one!

Her is this years scout STs and last years. Attachment 22377Attachment 22378Attachment 22379
Ronaldo and Messi where the scouts from last year!.
I am very happy with what Im getting out of them.

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Perhaps I am unlucky, but have read a few posts, so suspect am not the only one. The problem is that, by waiting for them to come in to some form, I find that I may have already cost myself valuable goals. I've won the league on goal difference twice in the last seven seasons, so know very well the importance of goal difference.
Not to mention the points/cup exit...
I think, once you have eliminated all the other options (that includes MC not playing well due to playing down the flanks and other tactical nuances) you're left with little option but to sell them.

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In the above match, our star missed 6 one-on-one chances. He also had one saved. I then conceded a 90th minute pen against my main title rival. Valuable points lost.
I guess the question is: how much will you let them cost you before you bite the bullet? It's just the loss of 50 tokens that bugs me...

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Originally Posted by russ2000_uk

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Perhaps I am unlucky, but have read a few posts, so suspect am not the only one. The problem is that, by waiting for them to come in to some form, I find that I may have already cost myself valuable goals. I've won the league on goal difference twice in the last seven seasons, so know very well the importance of goal difference.
Not to mention the points/cup exit...
I think, once you have eliminated all the other options (that includes MC not playing well due to playing down the flanks and other tactical nuances) you're left with little option but to sell them.

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In the above match, our star missed 6 one-on-one chances. He also had one saved. I then conceded a 90th minute pen against my main title rival. Valuable points lost.
I guess the question is: how much will you let them cost you before you bite the bullet? It's just the loss of 50 tokens that bugs me...

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You do find players miss lots of chances but they make up for it other ways!, Take Messi my first striker I listed, he has scored 39 goals in 33 league games ok and is a free kick specialist yet he seems to miss loads of freekicks lol! including 3 in a match 5 mins aga of which 2 sailed into the crowd!!!, yet he scores loads of normal goals!!! so although he is not performing to his special ability he is making up for it with goals in play!.

If his ratings hadn't been so bad I would have kept him but I can't abide 3 ratings of 4 in a row! My other strikers are still quality and they actually play quite well.
However that is 50 tokens I'll not see again and that, I think, is what frustrates those who have invested in players who have disappointed. I guess the term scout is a touch misleading!


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Originally Posted by russ2000_uk

If his ratings hadn't been so bad I would have kept him but I can't abide 3 ratings of 4 in a row! My other strikers are still quality and they actually play quite well.
However that is 50 tokens I'll not see again and that, I think, is what frustrates those who have invested in players who have disappointed. I guess the term scout is a touch misleading!


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That was your choice bud, Im pretty sure he would have come good!, What formation do you play? Im starting to think it was that, which just did not suit that player?.

It varies, but he had matches up front alone and on both sides of a pair...I'm confident he was never going to perform for me, which is a shame.
Am just annoyed at the waste of tokens.

Need ur scouts to score goals and assist a lot.... CALL ME MAYBE!!! :D

That's not just true for Scout, it's also true for all players :) Sometimes my 3* and 4* players score the most goals and assist and some MCs "enjoy" playing on one side more than the other

Although I never had a x4/x9 scout whose rating <6 but if his ratings are 6-7 constantly then that would be extremely disappointing already :)

It is very disappointing and not at all what you expect from such a large investment. I wrote to Nordeus about it and asked them how it works but they claimed they are not in control of the list!
Anyone else ever hear that anywhere? I assumed the list was generated by Nordeus...


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I stick by what I have said!, if the team is doing well overall then dont worry about his form, if not this season then the next he will come good!. Messi my scout from last year was the leading goal scorer last term and he is again firing on all cylinders this season aswell scoring a hatrick today!.. you just need to be patient!!, if you are wanting to buy a scout just for one season then you might aswell just go buy a 5* 4 or 9 rated HOT PROSPECT from the auction instead! just be carefull of a bidding war!, you will get a player for much less than the scout price but more than likely he wont have a special abillity!. I have a complete team made up of new scout this season and those I bought last season, I am top of the league, have the highest goal scorer, top rated player, and have only today conceded my first goal! so if that is not enough proof that scouts work I dont know what is!.

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Originally Posted by Skidz

I stick by what I have said!, if the team is doing well overall then dont worry about his form, if not this season then the next he will come good!. Messi my scout from last year was the leading goal scorer last term and he is again firing on all cylinders this season aswell scoring a hatrick today!.. you just need to be patient!!, if you are wanting to buy a scout just for one season then you might aswell just go buy a 5* 4 or 9 rated HOT PROSPECT from the auction instead! just be carefull of a bidding war!, you will get a player for much less than the scout price but more than likely he wont have a special abillity!. I have a complete team made up of new scout this season and those I bought last season, I am top of the league, have the highest goal scorer, top rated player, and have only today conceded my first goal! so if that is not enough proof that scouts work I dont know what is!.

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I don't think anyone disputes that scout players are, usually, better. However, I think people (myself included) begrudge losing 50T when one of them is awful. I think we all assume the 50T should contribute to some risk-aversion. 'Scout' suggests that they have been vetted, so to speak.
Many of us cannot afford to wait a whole season for them to perform. It's business end, fella, and we need performers...
There is no doubt these players are out there and you'll probably get one eventually. Trust me, you will find it frustrating...

I've had them in the past but no more, I am very happy having a very very good team always, I don't have to power train them or waist 40/50 points getting them a special ability, thatis why I don't mind paying 50T, I have been playing this game long enough to know what's best for me bud, I understand not everybody can afford scouts or like yourself want to pay that amount and that's a fair point!, I have shown you my stats and they are nothing like what your getting and that's probably because all my players have special abilities and are 6* minimum.