I don't because it's not live action but is fair to assume the game engine will know. Shots that are on target are blocked all the time in football.Quote:
Originally Posted by Josip Crncic
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I don't because it's not live action but is fair to assume the game engine will know. Shots that are on target are blocked all the time in football.Quote:
Originally Posted by Josip Crncic
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they are but they are not registered as shots on target...
otherwise clubs like barca/real would have 50 shots on target every game...
shot on target should be a shot which gk saved, one of three posts or a goal...
A) A shot on target is 1 that would have produced a goal without the intervention of another player.Quote:
Originally Posted by Josip Crncic
Hitting the bar and not going in is not on target as it could not have produced a goal - execept ofc if the reason it didn't go in was due to intervention.
So I'm running with the ball, I'm on 16m, I take a shot, but someone slided and blocked it...Quote:
Originally Posted by Buffs Mad
How do you know this shot would have produced a goal if that player didn't slide?
I don't know. OTOH, Hawkeye does a pretty good job of deducing that stuff in tennis and cricket, so I choose to assume the game has a virtual Hawkeye ;) - tracking the flight of a football isn't much different to working out whether a cricket ball would hit the stumps or not.Quote:
Originally Posted by Josip Crncic
No different to working out whether a goalie "needed" to make a save or not really
By looking at the angle of the strike etc. If the ball doesn't travel a reasonable distance (to allow for such a look) then it was probably a tackle and would negate any consideration of a 'shot'. You know, the sort of 'reasonble' and 'judgement' factors that referees, linesmen, managers, pundits etc make/discuss/argue about all the time when they are marginal. (Just like, when there is the question of whether a goal is a strikers goal or a defenders own goal? You can make the rule and agree its correct but then find a grey area which is difficult to apply - it doesn't break the rule, it just highlights the role of judgement.) But in some instances you will never KNOW, you need to make a reasonable judgement.Quote:
Originally Posted by Josip Crncic
I could ofc have written my reply to withstand forensic examination and included words like 'could be reasonably expected' or 'with an acceptable degree' etc but it would then have have ran to Paragraghs, sub-paragraghs and clauses rather than 1 line.:p
I stopped reading here. Thanks for your effort tho ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by Buffs Mad
Anyway, I googled it, so here u are, all of you who wondered what exactly "shots on target" mean :)
Shots on target
Any goal attempt that:
a) Goes into the net
b) Would have gone into the net but for being stopped by a goalkeeper's save
c) Would have gone into the net but for being stopped by a defender who is the last man.
I suppose I'll have to assume that on googling you got it from a reputable source.Quote:
Originally Posted by Josip Crncic
Afaik, using the definition I have always known, b & c together should read:
....if it had not been blocked by the goalkeeper or another player on the defending side.;)
That still leaves your own question unanswered as how you decide if it was going into the net before it was blocked.
"I refer the Honourable Gentleman to the answer I gave some moments ago."
Question is not unanswered, if my shot was.stopped by last man then it would have been a goal...
Think you mistyped this.Quote:
Originally Posted by Josip Crncic