Wait What ?

Hi guys, today i got a bit of a no sense result, and i wanted to share
It's not the result that makes it weird, (it ended 2-2), but the amount of chances that i missed whit 5/6 stars players, and that he scored everything with 2/3 or even 1 star players.

So Lets start off by showing the squad. (im at the left, of course)
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I went in this match thinking that i would won easilly, but then THIS happened...

So here's my very first good chance of scoring:
(btw, Teas is probably my best player ever, he never misses chances and scrores lots of goals as a defender)
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Okay, it happens, but then again:
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i could start to feel the cheese in me :P
I took the picture wrong here, but you understand i didn't scored
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There was many more small chances but these were the best ones.

Now guess what, my opponent had 2 attacks, he touched the ball 2 damn times in the comentary, and guess what, he scored both, 1 on a free kick, 1 on a ''spectacular long range effort'' from his 2 stars AMR on my 5 star GK

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So the game ended 2-2, leading me to get out of my first place on the league.

I don't usually make post about cheese results, but this one really pissed me off.

What do you think about it ?

this game is so fuarked up sometimes,in the last games my 7 star striker one on one scorer is missing almost all 1 on 1 changes most of the times it goes wide,today he missed 4 chances one in one with the goalie,i dont' know what the heck is happening

That's not weird. 2-3* players can be > than 5-6* players hands down. This has been said time and time again in these boards.

I get quite annoyed when i keep seeing these threads.
The outcome of a match in Top11 can be influenced by a variety of parameters. You're players quality is one of them, along with how rested they are, there mental condition, winning bonuses, team formation and tactics, winning streaks, and some sheer luck. We don't know for sure, but perhaps being new on a team can have an effect, or playing in a different formation (such as in the 3 different MC posts). So it is not as simple as having higher level players - very much like, well, actual football.

i`v got same troll result today lost 3-1 (after winning my previous 12 games) too a team 10 quality lower ??

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Originally Posted by adr100

I get quite annoyed when i keep seeing these threads.
The outcome of a match in Top11 can be influenced by a variety of parameters. You're players quality is one of them, along with how rested they are, there mental condition, winning bonuses, team formation and tactics, winning streaks, and some sheer luck. We don't know for sure, but perhaps being new on a team can have an effect, or playing in a different formation (such as in the 3 different MC posts). So it is not as simple as having higher level players - very much like, well, actual football.

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I don't see why you would get annoyed, I didn't forced you to come on the forums and read my post.
Now, I know that there is a lot of factors that change the game, but what tells me that it's not the case right here, is that from what I learned from previous seasons, when I will play this guy again, im just going to win easy, and i wont have changed anything, just like him, since he's innactive. This is what happened to me every season so far.

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Originally Posted by Guillaume Payeur

I don't see why you would get annoyed, I didn't forced you to come on the forums and read my post.
Now, I know that there is a lot of factors that change the game, but what tells me that it's not the case right here, is that from what I learned from previous seasons, when I will play this guy again, im just going to win easy, and i wont have changed anything, just like him, since he's innactive. This is what happened to me every season so far.

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Yes exactly our point. Why post when u know the answer? Players can freakishly outperform better players in this game, get blocks etc. It's a given. Sometime 2* players are better due to more matches played than 5* players or he has been preprogrammed to be good regardless. In T11 universe some 5* players are duds because they are meant to be bought and sold so u can use more tokens in the market.

So really, there is no point in this thread because there is nothing new that we do not already know. You want to vent? there is a vent thread for this.

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Originally Posted by Qambu Yaasi

Yes exactly our point. Why post when u know the answer? Players can freakishly outperform better players in this game, get blocks etc. It's a given. Sometime 2* players are better due to more matches played than 5* players or he has been preprogrammed to be good regardless. In T11 universe some 5* players are dudsreason they are meant to be bought and sold so u can use more tokens in the market.

So really, there is no point in this thread because there is nothing new that we do not already know. You want to vent? there is a vent thread for this.

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Look at the start i my post, i said, ''i wanted to share'', and at the end, ''what do you think about it''.
Its possible to start a post whitout needing answers, we can also have a discussion, that's part of a forum too, what makes a post usefull isn't that we learned something on it, whe are on the ''general discussion'' , as far as I know, this is a general discussion on the game.
Now again,if you don't love my post, dont read it, there's no reason to.
Thank you.

This is Why i stopped looking only for quality, If a player continue to perform, no matter is quality, he stays in they team.

This season in my team ACADEMICO D FC, my Best players so far are my 34years old 1* ML/AML, top assister and my 30years old 2* AMR/AMC, top scorer, If they are doing there job, Why selling?

This only a possibility, but does someone knows If the unsigned SP have influence in the performance of the players?
The players of abandoned teams, still received SP, they just are not assigned, If they were, the player would have higher Q

I am only saying this, because i have a 3* team were i had players with more that 100SP saved, and 2 seasons ago whend this happened i won against full 5* teams and even against a team with 6 scouts.

I know it dosent make sense, because the SP can be used for SA or New positions, but the player reduces training speed after reaching the exact number of points for the 6th star.

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Originally Posted by Dman2pt

This is Why i stopped looking only for quality, If a player continue to perform, no matter is quality, he stays in they team.

This season in my team ACADEMICO D FC, my Best players so far are my 34years old 1* ML/AML, top assister and my 30years old 2* AMR/AMC, top scorer, If they are doing there job, Why selling?

This only a possibility, but does someone knows If the unsigned SP have influence in the performance of the players?
The players of abandoned teams, still received SP, they just are not assigned, If they were, the player would have higher Q

I am only saying this, because i have a 3* team were i had players with more that 100SP saved, and 2 seasons ago whend this happened i won against full 5* teams and even against a team with 6 scouts.

I know it dosent make sense, because the SP can be used for SA or New positions, but the player reduces training speed after reaching the exact number of points for the 6th star.

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I agree, sometimes lower players are better than higher ones, that's the case for my 3 star striker. but like i said, if his players were playing really well, this guy would be winning matches, but he doesn't. He has 8 points in 9 matches. How can he be loosing againt's very weak team that i easilly won againt's, and then beat me. That's what i don't understand.

There is so much things we don't know about this game...

Thanks for your reply man,i apreciated it.

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Originally Posted by Guillaume Payeur

Look at the start i my post, i said, ''i wanted to share'', and at the end, ''what do you think about it''.
Its possible to start a post whitout needing answers, we can also have a discussion, that's part of a forum too, what makes a post usefull isn't that we learned something on it, whe are on the ''general discussion'' , as far as I know, this is a general discussion on the game.
Now again,if you don't love my post, dont read it, there's no reason to.
Thank you.

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In essence, this has been discussed to death i.e. Stars, Quality etc...a simple search would have been suffice to get your "discussion" answer. Yes I know what a forum is about and I also know there are some post who are just "venting" in the guise of discussion.

I cannot not read your post because it is there to be read. It's not like I make a mental note of which topics I should not read. Stop replying me if you don't like my replies, there's no reason to.

Thank you very much.

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Originally Posted by Qambu Yaasi

In essence, this has been discussed to death i.e. Stars, Quality etc...a simple search would have been suffice to get your "discussion" answer. Yes I know what a forum is about and I also know there are some post who are just "venting" in the guise of discussion.

I cannot not read your post because it is there to be read. It's not like I make a mental note of which topics I should not read. Stop replying me if you don't like my replies, there's no reason to.

Thank you very much.

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How many times will i have to say it, im not trying to get answers, im just trying to discuss about it, give our opinion, that's all. My post is here to be read, but there is no obligation to read it, and no obligation to reply to it.

Now can we please get back to topic ?
Thanks.

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Originally Posted by Dman2pt

This only a possibility, but does someone knows If the unsigned SP have influence in the performance of the players?
The players of abandoned teams, still received SP, they just are not assigned, If they were, the player would have higher Q

I am only saying this, because i have a 3* team were i had players with more that 100SP saved, and 2 seasons ago whend this happened i won against full 5* teams and even against a team with 6 scouts.

I know it dosent make sense, because the SP can be used for SA or New positions, but the player reduces training speed after reaching the exact number of points for the 6th star.

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Could very well be as the game takes into account these unassigned sp's like you said, when they (should) reach their next/6th star, and it also recognizes these with Cup Draws. For an abandoned team with several fasttrainers these players might actually be 2 stars stronger if they're in their 3rd and last abandoned month.

edit in: if this is true, there will be players who will think it hilarious to keep true Q hidden this way and beat 5/6 star teams with a 1 star team. I can surely see the appeal ;)

Dman2p, you might have found the answer to one of the most asked questions on the board, which accounts for god know how many posts!

Why am I loosing to a 10 Q weaker and abandoned teams?

It makes perfect sense, this way the Bot teams can "improve" too

So, you save up points for a SA then when you get it *bam* "my player got worse" . I can't believe that not assigning points is effectively the same as hitting auto-assign (until you actually assign them) but its not impossible. :cool:

This is just a theory, like any other.

So there's basicly no point at assining skill points ?
Does that mean it doesn't matter attack/defense/physic ?
Does that even mean quality doesn't matter, what matter's is something hidden from us ?
If Dman is right, we might be able to deduce other things...

u need to accept dat it was a troll result.it happens some tym or another wid every manager.so dnt get upset and move on;)

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Originally Posted by Guillaume Payeur

So there's basicly no point at assining skill points ?
Does that mean it doesn't matter attack/defense/physic ?
Does that even mean quality doesn't matter, what matter's is something hidden from us ?
If Dman is right, we might be able to deduce other things...

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No. If he is right with his theory it would mean that the system assigns ur 'unassigned skill points' for you. If you just always click auto-assign then that would give the same result. But when you assign them yourself you get what u choose.

and i will add, as dman2pt already has,........IF......