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Hi guys,

I thought until now wining 3 consecutive titles that the game Engine is Fair enough and a good distribution of good players will bring you the success ! Not at all my dear friends ....

no matter how you put your players into the field the strategic part it's zero ! i was eliminating from Cup making 2draws with a team 10X poor than mine , playing a f# wired tactic and even the stats were in his advantage :

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how it's possible having 3MC 35ability to bring you just 4% more possession against 1MC 21ability ???
both of us were online, my players condition was 99% and the morale was green for all ! i've even motivated them with 40K !
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and of course my all 5* players sucked !
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Really guys .... doesn't worth to spend even a cent ! The game is just a joke who produces a lot of money !

same here, my average quality is 36, my opponent 16.7 and he beat me 0-2 in my home match.

check mine:
http://forum.topeleven.com/top-eleve...me-please.html

The team difference isnt that big from what i see.. You have 4 players which are 5* but... thats all.
For me this isnt something that can shock me,yeah its not cool when you lose but you cant win every game.

I agree with Bebchu, the difference isn't that great. 10X? I don't think so.

Hi potemy,

in the last photo you have the team values : Mine 55,4M and my openent with only 6M ! I have players with EV 6M ....

u not gonna post this if u won :p

You measure your team on quality, not value. And like the other two said, the quality of the teams that played aren't that far apart.

When you say your quality is 10x greater, you are taking that off the whole team (subs and reserves) whereas the starting 11 for both teams are nowhere near 10x difference.

I've seen a lot bigger shock losses in this game.

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Originally Posted by Jourjaque

Hi potemy,

in the last photo you have the team values : Mine 55,4M and my openent with only 6M ! I have players with EV 6M ....

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That's the team value, very dependent on how many players you have, and the training speed of your players. Just above that, you have the average quality of both squads, 29.7 and 22.2. That makes you about 1.33 times his quality.

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Originally Posted by Potemy

I agree with Bebchu, the difference isn't that great. 10X? I don't think so.

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Yes but still he should win :)

Did your players had superb moral on both games?

i have almost 150 moral items and soon as i see yellow i treat them in emergency :) .... maybe the average lvl was 95% !

I've got a good squad on here, but don't expect to win every game. I was beaten on away goals in the quarter finals of the Champions League last season by a team I should have beaten on paper - but this game isn't played on paper just as in real life.

Ok so lets all pretend for a min "game engine is so unfair, nordeus do something about it like now!!!!"

Next day miracle happens : Developers change game engine, higher quality is a win no matter what you do, teams with scout players always perform better, option is really simple now: buy tokens and steamroll every lowbie / less quality team you come across.

Do you know what will happen in a week's time? everyone will be bored of the obvious and set team with auto coaching on. "why should i watch my game? its a 100% win afterall"
In a month's time no matter what side of the river you re on, you will get bored, think its another stupid obvious game and quit it....

It is a good thing a few results are unpredictable, even in real soccer sometimes you deserve to win but you dont....
Do you know why soccer is the king of team sports with millions of fans worldwide ? because in every sport you can see the game stats without final score knowledge and find out who was the winner. On the contrary you can check 100 games stats in soccer and you will never be sure of the winner ;)

Nothing special at all... yesterday second cup leg i draw 1-1 at home vs level 3 team. His best player was 21, and his 11 average was 18. My 11 was 37 almost.

Guys,

You undestood me wrong ! It's not about loosing a game .... not the result concerns me most !

I just wanna be clear : My 3MCs 35Quality versus 1MC 21Quality gave me just 4% more possesion and despide that his team shooted 11 times on the target and mine only for 7 times ! How is possible ?

I'm not speaking about having 3times more shots on the target and playing CA my oponent managed to score 1 lucky shoot! And it isn't only a game .... the first one had the same result ! Into a normal engine I should have won at least 2gools difference in both games !

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Originally Posted by Jourjaque

Guys,

You undestood me wrong ! It's not about loosing a game .... not the result concerns me most !

I just wanna be clear : My 3MCs 35Quality versus 1MC 21Quality gave me just 4% more possesion and despide that his team shooted 11 times on the target and mine only for 7 times ! How is possible ?

I'm not speaking about having 3times more shots on the target and playing CA my oponent managed to score 1 lucky shoot! And it isn't only a game .... the first one had the same result ! Into a normal engine I should have won at least 2gools difference in both games !

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Maybe he followed a better tact(ultra defense is there to counter better teams), maybe he gave maximus bonus for the win to motivate his players for the very first time( scotch manager?) or maybe his players decided to shine for a single time this season :o


In a soccer match my friend, everything is possible!

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Originally Posted by Spyros

In a soccer match my friend, everything is possible!

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Did you ever see into a real soccer game a team playing with 1MC having with 50% more shoots at the oponent target ?

I don't think so ....

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Originally Posted by Jourjaque

Did you ever see into a real soccer game a team playing with 1MC having with 50% more shoots at the oponent target ?

I don't think so ....

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Me neither but what I see in your posted pic is one mc + one dmr + one mr = 3 in the middle , with an option to pass only through right flank he could had been away with it!

I'm skeptical about MCs affecting possession more than other midfield positions. For me, it's about all the midfielders.

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Originally Posted by Bebchu

The team difference isnt that big from what i see.. You have 4 players which are 5* but... thats all.
For me this isnt something that can shock me,yeah its not cool when you lose but you cant win every game.

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sure you can. i was undefeated for a month until server issues erupted, nobody could connect, lost my 1st game then and an update came in, and then i started getting a string of draws and losses against inferior opponents. it's like they put mercy mode to help idiots who cant research formations for ****