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I had my first lost game, cause your system put me in the world cup to play with 5 and 6 lelev team, but I am in 2 level.
That was very bad from you. You want money??? I need 10.000 euros to make my players better, cause I cant buy players more than 29. So you did that to punish me because I put before money? I had in my mind to give you some money again, but now I will not.... You have unfair system.
Is any body here from the company to give me a answer??? :mad:
nobody from the company is on here to answer your questions, just other players. And if you look at how the cup is organized, it is done off of team qualities. Your best 14 players overall average quality, and they put you in a cup (not world cup, like the FA Cup) of teams with similar quality. Cup is usually the hardest to win, get used to it
as R/j say`s it`s down to Quality of teams that plays each other, now come back when you get higher level teams in the league where you skip a level like i did/have or meet higher team in champions league when you are suppose too meet same level teams and yes have asked Nordeus why and as normal they are keeping their GOB SHUT
Because Nordeus hates you...:D...
So.... As I see, the only way to win the world cup, is to buy the good players after. The cups must be only with the same levels teams. Now always the higher level team she will have better players, eleven players super stars against my team is ok for the other to win me always. Thanks for your answers RJSlow and spornybol. The stupid thing from Nordeus is that it is not possible anybody to buy tokens to make better team, because the low level teams they can't buy better players. So we have to use that the world cup in the game is unfair and the teams where won that cup, they won 3 and 4 levels down teams, so nothing at all. I won before one world cup when I was in 1 level again with better levels teams, but now they put me with 5 and 6 level, cause my team have 30 Quality. No more cups as Nordeus want.
Take it easy. That's life in the world in Top11. Suggest you just ignore cup games (if you can) in case you're really serious about these games.
I've played against stronger team in cup 1/8 finals, 1st match 0-0, 2nd 2-0 for his team.
I'm frustrated more because of quallity and level difference than defeat itself. My team has avg. rating 67-68 (5* on level 11), his team is lvl12 has 72-73 (5* on lvl 12=6* on lvl11). Worst of all, there is few stronger teams in this years cup, so actually I could had played against lvl13 team rating 76-77 (5*stars on lvl13=7* on lvl11). That means they play with 5* teams against 3-4* opponents, me and other lvl11 players against 6-7* and that is fair? Is that organised according teams quallity?
Cup competition needs lvl limit - we should play only against same lvl teams.
Cup competition draw has been beautifully thought by Nordeus in order to make managers spend more money...
As they are mostly won by the team that do not take and play the game seriously enough...So now the managers who plays TOP11 seriously are desperate for a CUP trophy...In the process they end up doing this :
1) Either spend huge amount of money on boosters to make their squad 8, 9 star after the CUP draw or
2) Sell you entire good players before the new season and recruit 3 star players...
As both process requires a lot tokens which results in huge profit for Nordeus...
So I don't think that Nordues will ever change how the CUP draw works...If they really wanted to provide the managers with something having a tough competition they could have easily paired teams of equal level having same quality...
More ever the CUP also keeps the bad teams interested in the game since they usually perform well in CUP's...:D....
Personally i don`t care about cup, it`s the League and Champs league i want BUT Nordeus have screwed me in that now as i should be in a level 20 league but they placed me after promotion from level 19 into level 21 league and there are 7 levels above me at least so they CAN`T SAY i`m at top of server and i`m not the only one that`s been screwed by this
Welcome to my world!, I have only won the cup once in 13 seasons because of this!, I win the league every season due to a very good team and so always play against 2 levels higher opponenents in the cup, there is nothing you can do about it unless you sell all your good players as soon as you have played your last game to bring your quality down!. Yes its very annoying but thats just how it is.
Get use to it bro, whether you play against other managers higher than you just give it your all. Thats all you can do. Im currently level 15, level 2 was the last i actually won the cup, if im lucky now i'll get to the quarter finals:D It is unfair but in a way its challenging. YOU CANT WIN ALL THE TIME!
make it hate you haha
Check again, maybe its club level 2 or 3, but manager's level is 6...Quote:
Originally Posted by Πάνος Ιωακείμ
I say this once and I'll say this again..
Higher level teams also have the great advantage of having SUPERIOR WIN BONUS compared to us, so even when they do happen to have same quality teams, they normally beat us anyway due to the extra performance their player gets.
The only way we can win the treble is to have a higher enough quality to win the league and CL but low enough to also win the Cup WHILE also avoiding anomaly teams like the power trainers or quality change after cup draw strategy and tankers IN ADDITION TO avoiding troll results which we cannot explain.
I don't know how some teams can even do this,
HAHA very funy speach;);).Its not TOP Eleven fault that you (sorry my words) donat money like psycho in this game....Quote:
Originally Posted by Πάνος Ιωακείμ
The reason you are in a high level Cup is your Team is THAT MUCH above the average for your level. I know it doesn't seem fair, but if you have a slightly above average Team... you're in your own level Cup. (When I say Team that means best 14)
So, if you power train or always have 5* or better best 14... you will always get a cruddy Cup. I know I sure have! But my 35T teams have won the Cup more than BvB *because* they are only a bit above average for their level.
Just score more goals than the other team hun that works !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
lol sorry not much help was I ???
you must have a good team though to be that far ahead in the cup so good luck hun
If my main team gets into the Knockout stages then that is success for me. Giant-killing ftw.
To have a better chance to win the Cup I just jump onto my 35T teams and bask in the glory.
To be fair, my main team hasn't actually met any big Quality Manipulators.....yet. But we have went out by the odd goal to teams that have taken some advantage of their higher quality market.
Hi,nobody wants to punish anyone,nor your have to spend money if you won't.
Cup tournements are different from league tournements ,because they are grouped by team levels.
So,let's say,that a 17 level Cup has a mean quality between 90 and 100 (it's only an example): if your team has a 93 level quality and a 15 league level,you may also face a 18 level team with a quality of 98.
Consider we're talking about a mean quality,but your opponent should also have an illegal tactic,or have one only strong player he doesn't want to use in Cup, and other normal players,or,simply,you should be clever to choose the best strategy to prepare your team.
If you don't succeed,don't worry,it's a good experience and a further amount of money.The most significant earnings are obtained winning a League (the opposite of real life Leagues).
I'm keeping in my team 4 1star players + I'm selling my leader players at the end of the season. This helps me .
The only other way to do it is to power train all your players up to 9 stars so you are on the same quality or better than the higher level teams!, personaly it would take alot of money and time to do it but each to there own and all that!.
dont worry about it, you got nothing to lose, only gain points for your players from higher level managers in the CupQuote:
Originally Posted by Πάνος Ιωακείμ
I'm level 14 and was in a level 17 cup that i just win :)
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No power training , no abandonned team for me but win !!! It's possible but it's very rare !
My second cup , the first was on level 2 lol
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as you can see , i have only two scouts , and the other players are 5 stars !
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Hey Kaizer, how did this happen ? In a LV17 CUP , two teams LV14 and lv15 in the final and no LV 17 teams with a bunch of red stars ? Strange :confused:
Possible reason is power training. They buy tokens and power train their players so as result of high average quallity they play against higher level teams. Their quallity is much over their level average.
It's always like that in the first and middle level .Quote:
Originally Posted by nikolgiorgos
level 17 & 16 are mostly abandonned teams so it' usualy the fisrt two level ( 14 but mostly 15 ) who go in final except if some level 16 or 17 wake up suddenly and decide to recruit 5 * next to 6 for their level , do you understand me ?
Yes except from this " level 17 & 16 are mostly abandonned". Why is that ?
If you like, I could use some advice in my thread. It's out now.
There is no much active players on high levels (15+). I remember from my 1st club I had to put my players more times on auction and hope to sell them, it became nightmare.
So, somewhere there it's the end of the game ? At least for A team ?
I don't know where is the end of game because there are few active players on very high levels (25+)
excuse me for my english :) i mean team's players who doesn't play top eleven now ! they have left the game !Quote:
Originally Posted by nikolgiorgos
Sometimes and this time i've been lucky to be in a cup draw within high level players doesn't play the game anymore .
But i have beaten a big level 15 team in final !
I have never won the cup, best has been 3rd....always playing against teams 2 levels above. I dont care about the cup anymore, not since season 3, when i realized how much off a con it was, this whole game is a con actually....treat it as a bit of fun....If you work on this philosophy then you wont get all uptight and pissed off....there is no rhyme or reason, apart from making money and paying your 'nor-dues'....dont give then the satisfaction and play the gemme with no cash injection....;-)
I had a draw (2-2) and a win (0-1) on my first cup game vs a lvl 7 manager (I am lvl 5) he had a better average quality but I emerged victorious! I really want to win this cup, this was I will get tripple crown, but yes CUP is the harder than CL and league...
Well yea all above are so true lol. i just monitoring L/CL/Cup drawings for last 4 seasons and either cup nor cl had equal draws. for my server ( didnt know which one is ) we have some realy serious token buyer guys and they're always won the compet. (dosent matter which one it is.) i'm at L22 and they're also at L22 teams with 27-28 Manager Lev. Btw, for last 4 seasons as i said i monitored the what nordeous doing in drawings and all i saw is we're just talking too much here lol. they realy dont care what game fans thinking or wanting etc, they just doing/changing rulez to get more $..
i just lost my cup as expected against that i mentioned team above which he's L22 with 140+Quality team lol he's also in my CL leauge.. i saw same teams ( 130-140Q teams @ l18-22) since 4 season in same compt. with mine and also with my friend's.
Token buyers rulez,, and no i dont mean to that NORMAL TOKEN Buyers (5-10$).. some serious guys in every server had all comp.
and i ''sometimes'' think that they're nordeus guys lol but meh who knows..
Beside all, if u dont spend money ( 75~100$ /m) and if ur server have some spenders like that,, u have ''just'' no chance to win any comp. if u got 'em in ur draws.. it dosent matter what lvl u r or what ur team quality is or what top 14 players got X stars.. this is my last season for T11 just because again & again i saw these teams in our compt. after 3 seasons, and yea i like to spend 5-10$ every season to get some regular market players for my new max quality.. but u cant fight with these teams like that lol. :)
So yea,, first and last time,, i realy talk to much here 'cuz i realy saw the friends like above posts and in forums talking too much about game dynamics etc but its dosent mater what we say here :)
'cuz
$ rulez..
the teams talking about below.. @22 max scout is 135 btw :^)
Top 11 Fail !!! - Imgur
I am a token buyer, I think I have spent about 100$ on this game, making my team really powerful. The thing is that althought I spent so much money and I have an overall age of 23 as of this season, there will come a point that I will either have to buy tokens again, or I will have to tank the next season at least so I can train my players to gain the stars lost for this and last season. If I do that, my player age will go to 26overall and I will lose 1-2 players cause of retirement age... There should be a system that help us build a team without buying tokens or at least spent 50-100 tokens to have a decent team. All my players (except 2-3) have SA and 2 or 3 are now beeing trained to play to an addition possition in order to utilize their full potential (I have 2 AML players that are 45quality and I am level 5 manager). So I think I will tank the next season and still have a team for 5 more seasons. Lets say I get 38 tokens if I log in every day, I will have about 110tokens from these 3 seasons. This will make me buy 2 scout players and a couple of 5 star players from auctions. This is not enough for my team to be complete, thus I will have to buy about 120 to 170 tokens in order to buy 4 scout players to replace those I will lose due to retirement. Sigh I need moneyz... Anyway I think that Nordeus should help us make some tokens even if that means they will make less money. I have serius thoughts of not continue playing this game if I come to a point that my players drop from 6-7 stars to 3-4 stars from winning leagues... :(
Make it hate you haha
