Transfer Negotiations ?

so i completely forgot about the transfer negotiation as i normal play using my android phone...
but recently due to work somehow unblocking Facebook i use the desktop app more which is miles better btw.

i kept receiving no token offers from the 3 same Asian players... kept rejecting them but still kept offering the same no token low value offer lol. In the end i just waited out the 24hours and they stopped bidding...

Sooooo my point lol...

it got me thinking bout the system... on my server i can get a nordgen player..mid season for about 20/30 tokens if I'm up against someone determined, if i'm lucky ill pick them up for a couple of tokens...if no one bids or get some guy bid once or twice and leave which happens alot for some reason?

so what's an offer people would accept?

i currently have put two offers in for players as experiment...
i personally wouldn't pay more than 25 tokens as i can get a nordgen for that or much less...
so the guy will get 8 tokens and money... to him that might be stupid but to me there is no point giving more

so i think maybe nordeus need to take less tokens from the transfer or revise the system as just doesnt seem to work that well?

im lv17 non token buyer
and when i say nordgen i mean 18yr old 4 or 9 ending :)

well, 5 tokens for the manager is good enough so your 25 tokens offer is very good already because he will get 8 not 5 but sometimes the manager refuses your offer because he need the player badly and sometime manager don't see offers if they are not active daily.
that's my opinion.

The whole transfer negotiations system is a complete waste of time. You should be able to adjust the ratio of money/tokens. But you can only offer tokens if you pay more than the market value. To offer somebody a decent amount of tokens you have to pay waaaaay above the market value. Why would anybody do that? To offer somebody say 10 tokens for a player you'd have to pay out nearly 30 tokens and several million above the market value in cash. At that point, you may as well buy a scout instead. At least then you won't pay more than the market value for the player.

I've just put in a no token offer for a player to see what happens. I'm sure it will get rejected. It's for a position I want, but I checked the players stats and the last 4 games he's scored 5 and picked up a current red card. So it's clear why teh seller is getting rid. But I'll try and sign him to see if I can get him playing well. I've offered market value and no tokens. But I bet the seller doesn't accept the offer. He'll then put the player on the market where he might well get less than market value. So I think my offer is reasonable.

i said he would get 8 token :)

today i just got 2 nordgen players for 4 tokens lol.

the transfer system needs to change its pointless imo and doesnt get used. why pay 25/30 tokens when you can get them for much less...

some market`s are different, on mine you get nutter`s that go 25/30 rounds s can be cheaper via neg list, each server is different

yeah, I like negotiations because I hate bid wars and bid wars happens alot on nordgens at my server.

on my server it is getting more difficult to get nordgens and any decent young players so i have turned to neg list and if your getting the player you want whats 11 or 12 tokens.

I tend to accept the offer if they offer 3 or 4 Tokens, but then I only allow guys that I *want* to sell to sit with a point shy of a star to put them on the list. Some managers don't intend their player to be on the list and won't sell.

I had a lucky escape in negotiations as last season I was offered a wad of cash and tokens for one of my under-performing scout ST. He was warming the bench as he couldn't hit a barn door. However this season he is scoring goals for fun and currently league top scorer. So glad I kept hold of him. My advice is to beware of negotiations because you might be selling a future gem.

or buying one. :)

i get offers for one player everyday 2-3 times, and always reject...its a 18 yo either foot MC SA playmaker, and not i have upgraded him to DMC MC...so i guess i will have even more offers for hm but the offers are always the lowers and with no tokens for me...are they NUTS???

i will sell the player on the first day of next season and expect atleast 10-15 roundes and x2 market value :)

no man thats sucks to put 8 token just for be able to make a request i don;t know if people try that but for me that is to much and i never try to sing like that

and for your young talent creatur you need to wasit tokens 22T for 4stars thats sucks to, i mean that is your youth player shoult be free, you can't put 22 token just for 4stars

thats two ideas just r failure .

This is why some people prefer to use negotiations or buy their youth product (remember yeah it's T but no $$)

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I had put one T only, after a couple guys bid I knew no go. Three guys up to round before. All wasted on a 24 y.o.!
especially the 2 losers in the auction, they get nothing and have to keep looking. Middle of the season, still wars on some servers.

Seem that im very lucky on my server and can pick up quality for little tokens :)

Hey my friends, I have a different problem but it's about negotiations so I'll post it here.
I bought a nordgen player, this guy Cohen

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I trained him a little (he is very good at that :eek:) to become Q9 and didn't use him in any game. He is in reserves.
I have another one ST nordgen so I want to sell him and gain few T if possible .
I was waiting this weekend for any offers but nothing (I am at server 192).
Am I doing something wrong ? because I 've seen bidding wars for players 10 year older than him?
Can I see my player in neg. list or can anyone else see him because I don't know how many tolken is the cost to buy ?

he is 1 point away from 40Q ?

Now he is Q39
Those are some training numbers -practice

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He needs to be exactly one point away to be on the list. So if he is there, just wait. A young ST will get offers.

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He needs to be exactly one point away

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Do you mean 1 Q or 1 skill point ?

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Is this ok ?

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Do you mean 1 Q or 1 skill point ?

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1sp. Nope he's got 14sp still to get. ;)

Thanks Buff. I thought it was 1Q.
Take a look at this (senario?) . This guy was 9Q but then maybe he gained, by accident (I mean gift from friend) 1 sp and went 6* ?
And now my lv players can't make any offers for him but upper lv can ?

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Do you mean 1 Q or 1 skill point ?

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1 point which means 1 skill point not 1 quality :D

Hey, maybe I 'm a newbie (especially in negotiations) but I reading a lot in this forum.
In this post
http://forum.topeleven.com/top-eleve...otiations.html

my friend Khris, who is an experienced manager and member of this forum, mentioned about 1Q, not 1sp :confused:

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Originally Posted by nikolgiorgos

Hey, maybe I 'm a newbie (especially in negotiations) but I reading a lot in this forum.
In this post
http://forum.topeleven.com/top-eleve...otiations.html

my friend Khris, who is an experienced manager and member of this forum, mentioned about 1Q, not 1sp :confused:

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LOL who is confuzzed is me today with the 5 accounts I had in the league LOL

hmmm... yea I was confuzzed, is 1sp not 1Quality,,, just the players are at 1 cone of next star, sorry for confussion LOL*

Thanks Khris, good luck with O.M.A. :)

All players on negotiatons list need 1 skill point to become scout. Younger players are (of course) better. You can also take a look on team in which player is to check out if this is substitute or 1st team player, how important is he for this manager, how active manager is etc.
To do that, click on right manager picture (marked with red arrow on this screenshot)
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Then decide to send offer. If you have much tokens, send him offer money+few tokens, he will accept for sure if he is active.

Yes ^^

I accidentally left one of my 6* a Cone/Skill point away from his 7th star and got an offer from a guy above me. But he obviously didn't do as above or he would have seen that he is the most expensive guy on my Team (20 y.o. DC/DMC) I rejected all offers and assigned the point to take him off the list. :)

And , as I post the example, if my player take the gift 1 s.p. from a friend and become 6* what next ? He is out of my list for the same lv managers but av. for upper levels ?

Yes, but you don't have to add that SP... He will remain 5*, loosing 1 SP isn't that much...