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Believe or not.. I was eliminated by champions by this team...
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after winning 1-0 away from home.. I lost 1-2 at home.
He didn't follow the match and played a 4-1-3N-1-1.
I started with 3-1-3N-2(AMR/AML)-1, changing to 4-1-3-1-1 in the second half, after the 1-1.
One minute from the end he scored the 1-2..
I can't belive it....
OMG! 26 Q vs 15 Q and he advanced to the Q-finals? :eek:
Please, post a screen (tactical/1st formation)
I was eliminated in the cup in early round by this team: my quality was 36 his was 16!!!
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Starting formations:
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I started with mentality normal, passing on flanks
rosters:
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I'm still shocked...
everything can happen
welcome to cupsQuote:
Originally Posted by nico69
am interested to see their formation
bcz it is often related to tactic in 90% of cases .. the rest is about pure bad luck which happens in football
you have one Striker facing 4 defenders .. i would had put 4 in mid and 2 StrikersQuote:
Originally Posted by nico69
often expanding wide in V style can be more damaging when playing it at home, especially as opposition will set to counter & defend .. which mean his CMs can sit back as DMs and thus you will have less spaces between your wide distanced players
i played in CL a team who were 2 stars weaker than me , he played a V formation at first game and he managed to beat me at home .. next game i beat him 1-3 away as his V tactic seemed to backfired on him.
damn you are right !Quote:
Originally Posted by Gafaton
barcelona owned the game in his home vs Real Madrid and ended 1-3 ! i love when barca sux and RM wins :D
nothing can guarantee your win in top elf :)
Thats pretty shocking, I can't explain too and I don't see how this could happen.Quote:
Originally Posted by nico69
What was second result? 2-0 was one of them :)Quote:
Originally Posted by Tarek Abed
I agree with you but 2 times in row should not be allowed.Quote:
Originally Posted by Gafaton
in T11, majority of the active team have very good players but not have good manager :D
my friend (level8) eliminated a team from level 12
his * is 57 and team from 12 was * 71
1-0 home 0-0 away
so we were happy..but the other guy should post at the forum HOW CAN THIS HAPPEN..
tactics i think..
i have 37,8 quality and my opponent in the league had 19,8 (worst team who lose big to everyone)
first half 0-0 i had 1 shot on goal!!!
2 wingers substituded second half i scored 8 goals..its just the tactics..
lol did u watch the game?hahaha......Quote:
Originally Posted by Ro Edu
The day after.
My sensation is that this result was already written.
I play a lot of matches and they are all quite "linear". If I have 68-32 ball possession and 10 shots on gol I always win. I've played many times with one striker facing 4 defenders but usually a score 6 goals per match.
I've been eliminated by cup by a 4th level team stronger than me (22 vs 26 at that time) with a double draw (1-1 and 2-2). He scored the draw goal at 89' but ok, it can happen.
But I use to win all the other matches in league, champions and cup with more than 3 gol margin.
I know that I can't win all team weaker than mine but really this time has been too strange.
C'mon guys, Barcellona can maybe loose against Celtic but will never be eliminated by Flora Tallin.
He was too weaker than me, the team is maybe abandoned, I was at home and I was following the match (+13% ball possession).
bah.... luckily I'm not a token buyer
but unfortunately my season stop here. I have too many point of advantage in the league and I'm out of cups
the manager is going on holidays until season 3 starts :cool:
You played against Brazil, ofcourse you lost. hahaha. So jokes he renamed his players when they 4 stars?Quote:
Originally Posted by Tarek Abed
Back to the tactics, why is your playmaker a DR? He's not Beckanbauer! I'm guessing you played down the flanks with long ball. You should of played short passing because your players are more skillful instead of putting in long crosses and let your lone ST face 3 DC not to mention you have to beat his DML/DMR tracking back and defend. You also probably put red arrows on your fullbacks letting Neymar getting into free space. I suggest get a more balanced squad with some arial defenders. You probably let a few in from set pieces.
You got everything wrong from the start! After winning 1-0 away, you should of known its not easy to eat him alive. The return leg you should of played 4 at the back and push the fullbacks up for overlaps instead of going 1on1 against him on the flanks but leaving your ST facing 2 DC and DMC coming back. You have much better team but you changed your formation to try to win against an underdog when it should have been his job. You changed your formation but you basically just followed basic rules. 3 DC against his lone ST. DMC to block his AMC, 3 MC in midfield against his 3 MC, avoid the middle since he has a DMC. You had better chance putting 2 AMC against his 1 DMC than going to the wings. If you say you always play on the wings then you totally forgot that fullbacks are critical to have with wing attacks and defend against counters. I beat a few team 10 quality + above, its normal!Quote:
Originally Posted by nico69
I'm sure that it can be happen I faced too much from this for me and against me .
I won once against a manager who was higher than me with 3 levels and by logic and everything, I can't win against him but I won 1/0.
and more than this happened to me ...
after i go home I'll put the pic here .
Yes, maybe I managed my formation very basically but why is it a mistake?Quote:
Originally Posted by fmldotcom
We have a table of counter formation that should work.
Does a 26,2 team (with +13% ball possession) against a 15 abandoned team really need special tactics?
And, however, I've changed to 4 at the back after the first half.
I lost while my formation was 4-1-3N-1-1, moral and condition at the top, normal mentality and passing mixed.
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i do watch almost all Real Madrid games ... since i`m in spain :D
and what i hate when the people start to discuss the games and compare it with real life when they should not !
I meant play 4 at the back so 2 DC to handle his 1 ST and push the fullbacks to support your attack wingers. Since after you changed to 4-1-3-1-1 both team's fullbacks had minimum use and i'm sure his fullbacks are not pushing up to attack either. You changed to a formation exactly same as his so it didn't really give you any advantage tactically because you just went man for man. You would had more success if you ordered your players to use attacking, short passing causing them to move forward a little more giving you more space instead with normal mentality they will stick to their position and it's very congested. If you feel it's too dangerous to attack at that point of the game 4 diamond narrow would be better because the team would be more balanced. Your 2 MC would totally control midfield despite being outnumbered because they are better and with mixed passing they don't need to hold the ball or play quick short passes. I played 4-1-3-1-1 a few times to fit my best players using short passing controlling possession well but I lacked firepower as you know its not an attacking formation. Why he scored? I don't exactly know the correct answer but the game is calculated on numbers and probabilities I would think nearing the end your DMC was more tired than his since yours had to work all game and his just started to get pressure. I don't know how he scored. A long shot? A set piece? Either way, you set a difficult order for your own team when clearly the formation you used should be short passing through the middle. If you feel just because you are better on paper and must win then why need to play the match? Should just compare squads and decide winners right? Don't be angry because I would be dissappointed to win by less than 2 goals as well but one day you'll win against someone better than you by more would you know why? Just look back and see why the result came out like that and avoid in the future bro. Invest in wall defenders and arial defenders as long as corner and freekickers bro. Since the game is calculated on probabilities you have better chance to win if you possess all the posibilities. I had many hard games and it came to set pieces. Oh..and next time you need to protect the score line, the last 15 should be defensive minded bro. That and hard tackling, short passing, focus to the flanks....because if you lose ball in flanks, its harder for them to score.Quote:
Originally Posted by nico69
dude i won`t stay to read all this :DQuote:
Originally Posted by fmldotcom
Yah wtf, didn't realize it so long...Quote:
Originally Posted by Ro Edu
Thank you for all fmldotcom :o
However, I don't think that if I'm better on paper I must win.
The matter is that there were no premises for a bad result.
I play every day against teams like this or better and the result is always the same: 6-0, 7-0, 4-0 an so on.
In my league I'm first in the standings with 60 goals scored and 0 conceded.
Sometimes I get presumptuous and play with a 3-3w-1-3 just to have fun and I always win
Anyway, I do hope all the things you wrote really matter in the game, because sometimes, like other guys said in this forum, it seems that matches are already programmed no matter what you do.
Have fun!
If you finish the season with 0 or 1 conceded, don't forget to post the table here so you would go into the record books, no one in the forum or the game has been known to concede less than 2 goals in a league season.Quote:
Originally Posted by nico69
At the end of the day, If your team is 10,15,20 or more quality better than your opponents on paper, it doesn't mean you are going to win the match.
The prove for my previous comment is as follows :Quote:
Originally Posted by Adel Gamal
http://upload.7bna.com/uploads/b0c8d01565.jpg
this from 4 season when i was in level 9 I'm on right and he is on left ... can you imagine this?
I'm here in this form and the old form from too much time but i didn't see anyone won against a manager higher than him with 4 levels and the bad player in the opponent team was 8* (6 players) and the rest 9*.
Who did like this :) :P a prove pls before you talk :)
haha what the heck. I would be pissed if i was the Lv13Quote:
Originally Posted by Adel Gamal
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Team on Left 81.4 vs Team on Right 99.4 - 18 points quality difference
My friends second game in the Cup. Idk how he managed it but back then he had around 14 QL vs 34.1 QL
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wow, so my season can still make senseQuote:
Originally Posted by July Fourth
here below the table but 10 matches are still missing
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let's cross fingers :cool:
Damn!
Of course, now there I'm aware of the "record", I won just 4-1 away so my team conceded the first gol :mad:
