How to win vs 4-5-1

[alinho]

Hi All! I read the sticky about tactics but it never helped me winning.

It's 17.9(me) vs 18.9 (him) and he has a weird tactic. İ followed some of his matches, there is no "killer"formation vs his 4-5-1

He plays like this:

Dl - dc - dc - Dr
--(no dm)--
--Mc--mc--
Aml -amc -amr
----St----

Usually i counter 4-5-1 with 4-1-2-1-2 but in this case i would go for 4-2-1-1-2, the amc could be succesfull because of his lacking dm and 4defenders with 2 dmc and 1 mc should counter his stunning midfield.

İ would play defensive, mixed passes, maybe offside trap so here you go please give me some advise

Sorry for the format, i am typing from my mobile.

[Lola.Milo]

it not 4-5-1. it 4-2-3-1

[Kyroshill]

Guide says 4-4-2 classic.... but you'd need some strategic arrows I think.... make sure your MCs aren't going too deep...

Personally I like the Butterfly here.... with blue arrows on the DMCs probably...

And next time... this should be in the Tutorials section :P

[alinho]

Oh thanks for the answers how can i move the thread?

What is Butterfly? 3-2-2-2-1? Can you sketch it pls?

[Kyroshill]

-------ST------
-AML------AMR-
-----MC-MC----
-DML------DMR-
-DL---DC---DR-


And I didn't mean DMCs in above post.... I meant to say DMs.... in this case DML and DMR...

guess I should ask if you can fill all these positions....

[vanzz]

someone help me i will play against 5-4-1 5 defenders 2 mc's one ml one mr and one ST : what do u suggest me what formation can i beat him with :???

[reallaw]

-------ST------
-AML------AMR-
-----MC-MC----
-DML------DMR-
-DL---DC---DR-


And I didn't mean DMCs in above post.... I meant to say DMs.... in this case DML and DMR...

guess I should ask if you can fill all these positions....

3 wings on the same side (left/right) is a illegal formation on top11

[alinho]

There is no position i can't fill

But if it is illegal it's no help

[Kyroshill]

3 wings on the same side (left/right) is a illegal formation on top11

LOL.... I hate trying to diagram fast while doing 20 other things....

S/B..... ------DC-DC-DC------ on the back line

[alinho]

Ok thanks but did you ever try this vs 4231?