This game lacks reward for dedicated players

I have 10+ stars than my opponnent, Im losing by 0-1 and still i cant barely score a single goal for my last league match where i needed to win to win the league! It went 1-1 so i finished 2nd.

I watch every single match, and i didnt deserve this. I am extremely frustrated because im dedicated while other managers win the league even thought they watch like 10% of the games.

I deserved to win the league! I had more stars than all, I played consistently all league! Why do I have to draw vs a team with 10 less starts than mine!? No point being dedicated as I am... I dont want token for logins or watch the games, If i am an active user, give me f****ng justice at least!

Because you were blinded by the information the game given, and failed to understand how the game worked. 1 star difference can be easily overcame by proper player management and correct tactics.

I have a lower quality team than half of the people in my league and ends in 2nd at level 23. I rarely attend my games and actually beat the league winner on the last game of the league for 1:0 where I didn't even watched it (although I'm still 5 points short).

My players are outperforming for their quality, and this is achieved by proper management.

You can only play better though learning not complaining. But yeah, it could be frustrating at times.

I manage my players everyday, I train my players everyday considering their physical condition, i boost moral and phisics...
My tactic is correct, i dont use illegal ones ofc. Just because he had lets say a better tactic than mine he can draw with me even though he is 10 stars short?
Whats the point having better players then! I wasnt blinded by nothing, i deserved to win this league clearly

Blisterecon - the answer is very simple.
nordeus simply dont care about there managers (us) they dont care about there game if its fair or not, they dont care if you attended your match or not, all they care is to make $$$$$$$$$$ from comersials and sponsers and token sell. as long as their pocket is full they dont care about anything.

I have similar issue. Can't win cup. Cannot even pass through the quallifying stage. I regulary loose against worst squads that dont even have players signed, (their formation is invisible) or goalkeeper is playing on strikers position, striker is on the goal etc. I have won more than 15 leagues, 1 champions cup ( + 5 finals that i loose), but cannot pass through the cup quallifiers. My altered team have won 3 world cups and i didnt even paid attention to the team, players, moral,haelth, formation...etc. HOW???

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Originally Posted by Blisterecon

I manage my players everyday, I train my players everyday considering their physical condition, i boost moral and phisics...
My tactic is correct, i dont use illegal ones ofc. Just because he had lets say a better tactic than mine he can draw with me even though he is 10 stars short?
Whats the point having better players then! I wasnt blinded by nothing, i deserved to win this league clearly

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If both sides use the correct tactics, an average 10q higher team would more likely win. I'd say something like 95% or 18 in 20 games.

The quality advantage is much less than you would like. When you have many players getting form 6 or lower, you are not managing your team well enough to ensure domination.
Morale is not much of a factor for player performance. In fact, the natual change in morale after match is an indication of player fitness.

Don't judge players solely on the stars, but by their overall pitch performance.

If you think a higher quality team should always win you've vastly underestimated the complexity of the game and I don't think you are so "dedicated" as you claimed. You may have tried your best but it didn't work as you thought, the situation won't improve unless you find your decision errors and correct them.


Tip: Bench or fire the worst performing player in the last 5 games, and find someone else to replace him, no matter the quality, one at the time. Repeat the process you will eventually have a top eleven of motivated and powerful players that is very difficult to beat. RL regular lineup is pretty much the same thing, really.

Thats what I am realizing...

@Mamadu...about the Cup, and your alternate winning and main not... that's my experience too. If you have a very nice team, you wind up in a level or more above you in Cup, and it is hard to improve your team to the Q level of the competitors you face, since one token buys them a Scout or better. With a closer to average team, you will be in your own level Cup, thus much easier to win.

+10 stars?

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Originally Posted by khris

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thats bull****! stupid game

Should color the sixth and further stars like the ones in-game and decorate the beyond with a glare of golden shine, with further stars shining brighter:p

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Originally Posted by Amane Ito

Because you were blinded by the information the game given, and failed to understand how the game worked. 1 star difference can be easily overcame by proper player management and correct tactics.

I have a lower quality team than half of the people in my league and ends in 2nd at level 23. I rarely attend my games and actually beat the league winner on the last game of the league for 1:0 where I didn't even watched it (although I'm still 5 points short).

My players are outperforming for their quality, and this is achieved by proper management.

You can only play better though learning not complaining. But yeah, it could be frustrating at times.

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Seriously? Cause my buddy who just quit the game thinks differently. His league champion hasn't attended a single game, hasn't substituted a single player, hasn't changed formation even once all season long. I'm not sure if he ever assigned a skill point, cause he won the league this way with his 5* players while other manager were trying to improve their teams and had 6* and 7* players.
And looks like in every league weaker teams has won all the last games last season (at least 6 teams that managed by friends of mine couldn't win a game). Probably all the "proper managers" don't watch their games and got weaker teams.

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Originally Posted by Dmitry Petrushkevich

Seriously? Cause my buddy who just quit the game thinks differently. His league champion hasn't attended a single game, hasn't substituted a single player, hasn't changed formation even once all season long. I'm not sure if he ever assigned a skill point, cause he won the league this way with his 5* players while other manager were trying to improve their teams and had 6* and 7* players.
And looks like in every league weaker teams has won all the last games last season (at least 6 teams that managed by friends of mine couldn't win a game). Probably all the "proper managers" don't watch their games and got weaker teams.

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That's what I am talking about!!

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Originally Posted by Dmitry Petrushkevich

Seriously? Cause my buddy who just quit the game thinks differently. His league champion hasn't attended a single game, hasn't substituted a single player, hasn't changed formation even once all season long. I'm not sure if he ever assigned a skill point, cause he won the league this way with his 5* players while other manager were trying to improve their teams and had 6* and 7* players.
And looks like in every league weaker teams has won all the last games last season (at least 6 teams that managed by friends of mine couldn't win a game). Probably all the "proper managers" don't watch their games and got weaker teams.

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Sorry but yes, that 5* team is stronger than your 6~7* layman teams, due to proper player selection. His players are simply better and it's not about the stars.

I have done that before, winning league with a team of 4~5* while at least 4 managers in the league had 5~6* teams. We won because we managed better and optimally changed the tactics against different teams and they did not. You don't know which option is better against what team, but we did our research thus know how to change the orders to improve the chances way before a game has started.

When he consistently dominate using a low quality team, match a same quality team and there will be no game. Many people here had 26-0-0 run before, using full 5* team with a scout or two.
I can win around 80% of the games against same quality random team, without watching the game and have no manager supporting on my side.

We are just playing at a much higher skill level, novice with more stars alone have little chance against us.
But you can always buy your way to victory. A 3 star average difference is insurmountable unless the lower quality team got extremely lucky.

Using the optimal counter, I think the chance for me against a 2 star deficit is pretty much 50/50. If it is only 1 star, I could win more games than losing. I found out most often the reason I lost a game on 1 star deficit was because I carelessly employed the wrong orders.

How dedicated are you?

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Originally Posted by khris

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The least you can do is line up the stars for goodness sake, I could line them up in PC paint better than that!?

The weaker teams, the abandoned teams, the teams where the manager turns up every now and then. Nor-dues isn't getting any income from these teams. The income comes from the better teams, where managers are trying to improve, get stronger, watch all the games, train, pay attention, etc. etc.
So when these weaker, abandoned, uncared for teams win, as they are programmed to do....Then the managers who care get pissed, because it's an injustice and a high % will try to improve their team even more, ie. Buy players, tokens, boosters and so forth....When you realise this is JUST a money making exercise, like most cheap ass online games, then you will enjoy it more. It's just a bit of fun, not worth your hard earned cash....Why do you thnk its a FREE gemme....????

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Originally Posted by Philip L. Willis

The least you can do is line up the stars for goodness sake, I could line them up in PC paint better than that!?

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LOL yeah... and tthe 6 looks like is a little bit alcoholic too.. but well,,, I still asking the same, 10 stars? or 10 of Quality? ...because 10 of Q. we know all depend of the 22 players that one have... the % can be reduced due 1*-2* and so... and well... too we have to see other stuffs, like level of skills in players, and too a valoration of how posible is to win looking the 2 initiall 11's...

I know u r a good painter PW, I deal with it LOL

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Originally Posted by Amane Ito

Sorry but yes, that 5* team is stronger than your 6~7* layman teams, due to proper player selection. His players are simply better and it's not about the stars.

I have done that before, winning league with a team of 4~5* while at least 4 managers in the league had 5~6* teams. We won because we managed better and optimally changed the tactics against different teams and they did not. You don't know which option is better against what team, but we did our research thus know how to change the orders to improve the chances way before a game has started.

When he consistently dominate using a low quality team, match a same quality team and there will be no game. Many people here had 26-0-0 run before, using full 5* team with a scout or two.
I can win around 80% of the games against same quality random team, without watching the game and have no manager supporting on my side.

We are just playing at a much higher skill level, novice with more stars alone have little chance against us.
But you can always buy your way to victory. A 3 star average difference is insurmountable unless the lower quality team got extremely lucky.

Using the optimal counter, I think the chance for me against a 2 star deficit is pretty much 50/50. If it is only 1 star, I could win more games than losing. I found out most often the reason I lost a game on 1 star deficit was because I carelessly employed the wrong orders.

How dedicated are you?

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You have no idea what you're talking about. Which is common for the Nordeus fans.
My buddy's team has won both Cup and Champions league last season. He dumped all his players except starting 11, changed their names, spent all his token on jerseys and left this game, but even after that his team is undefeated this season! I'm taking a look at sometimes and they refuse to lose even without any support. They won 3 rounds of the Cup against the teams one or two levels higher, they've won all their CL games... This team is playing better without manager than it used to play when someone was taking care of them! And I have to mention that in the head-to-head game my buddy's team beat that "champion" 4:0. That's crazy results in the other games didn't allow him to with the treble - he was able to get only 1 point in the last 2 games of the season against buttom feeders! He knows about this game as much as anyone else including yourself, but a bunch of unpredictable results decided everything.
And you contradicting yourself in every sentence.
You say: "We won because we managed better and optimally changed", but the champion of my buddy's league didn't manage his team! Did you miss the part about substitutions, changing formation and presence at the games?
You said that the OP blinded by the information the game given, and failed to understand how the game worked, but I really doubt that you understand it yourself.

I've lost 4 league titles against managers who on first impression do not attend matches but I am guessing they still login for the tokens and jst to do housekeep.

As for your buddy's team
1. His team started the season with good players. U say he didn't dump his first 11. That was the first 11 that won the double. He is most likely to continue his good form on the first season of abandonment.
2. If he doesnt log in next season, his team will crumble definitely.

Other than that, yes I agree that managers who attend matches should be given some sort of advantage. I also agree that having 5-6-7 star players doesn't guarantee you a title winning season, but it should guarantee a top 4 finish in the league.

Sometimes a neglected 4-5 star players can do the job IF the active opponent screw up his team orders and formation, which is normally the case. Recently I destroyed a 5-6 star firstXI, 3-1 with my 4-5 star firstXI. I didn't attend the match, he did. He took the lead, I equalised then he made a substitution which opened the door for me to score 2 goals. I am guessing he panicked.

Thanks for all the support guys. It is good to know that I was not alone in this situation!!

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Originally Posted by Qambu Yaasi

I've lost 4 league titles against managers who on first impression do not attend matches but I am guessing they still login for the tokens and jst to do housekeep.

As for your buddy's team
1. His team started the season with good players. U say he didn't dump his first 11. That was the first 11 that won the double. He is most likely to continue his good form on the first season of abandonment.
2. If he doesnt log in next season, his team will crumble definitely.

Other than that, yes I agree that managers who attend matches should be given some sort of advantage. I also agree that having 5-6-7 star players doesn't guarantee you a title winning season, but it should guarantee a top 4 finish in the league.

Sometimes a neglected 4-5 star players can do the job IF the active opponent screw up his team orders and formation, which is normally the case. Recently I destroyed a 5-6 star firstXI, 3-1 with my 4-5 star firstXI. I didn't attend the match, he did. He took the lead, I equalised then he made a substitution which opened the door for me to score 2 goals. I am guessing he panicked.

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It doesn't matter if he logins in or doesn't. I think he does. I was answering to the statement that "the champs players are better cause he won the title". Hell no. My buddy's team trashed him face to face and has won all the possible titles. He won the Cup, he won the CL, he needed 2 more points in the last 2 games vs. a couple of weak teams to win the triple crown. He was testing formations on my team three times to beat that bottom feeder (and even though my team is one level lower, at the moment it was much stronger than his upcoming league opponent). He's beat me easily 3 times out of 3 tries, but could do nothing during that league game. The game engine just didn't let him score and allowed that abandoned team to score a game-winner from 30 meters. Two games in a row.

Why would the Nordeus do that to active managers? I think cause a dedicated player might spend some money to win the titles, while someone who don't give a damn about watching his team games obviously won't. Give the title to someone who doesn't care and may be those who waste time watching, training and managing their teams might go further in their desire to win.

As for my buddy's team
1. Yes, and I've just tried answer to that ridiculous statement that the champs' players were better even though their rating was 1-2* lower.
2. So what? Does it makes them bad players? His team currently proves that you don't have to manage your team to win in this game. Which is completely wrong. I'm loging in for him sometimes and just found out that his 13th level team outplayed a 14th level team with active manager in the Cup.

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Originally Posted by Dmitry Petrushkevich

It doesn't matter if he logins in or doesn't. I think he does. I was answering to the statement that "the champs players are better cause he won the title". Hell no. My buddy's team trashed him face to face and has won all the possible titles. He won the Cup, he won the CL, he needed 2 more points in the last 2 games vs. a couple of weak teams to win the triple crown. He was testing formations on my team three times to beat that bottom feeder (and even though my team is one level lower, at the moment it was much stronger than his upcoming league opponent). He's beat me easily 3 times out of 3 tries, but could do nothing during that league game. The game engine just didn't let him score and allowed that abandoned team to score a game-winner from 30 meters. Two games in a row.

Why would the Nordeus do that to active managers? I think cause a dedicated player might spend some money to win the titles, while someone who don't give a damn about watching his team games obviously won't. Give the title to someone who doesn't care and may be those who waste time watching, training and managing their teams might go further in their desire to win.

As for my buddy's team
1. Yes, and I've just tried answer to that ridiculous statement that the champs' players were better even though their rating was 1-2* lower.
2. So what? Does it makes them bad players? His team currently proves that you don't have to manage your team to win in this game. Which is completely wrong. I'm loging in for him sometimes and just found out that his 13th level team outplayed a 14th level team with active manager in the Cup.

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You're not getting the point. Forget about it.