High Value Players not performing 6-7-5-5-6 stats etc what do you do with them?

Level 2 at the time of writing The first guy I have is a keeper cost me over 1m. He is a "(28) 5 star quality". Young aged 23.
He was supposed to be my number one keeper for the season has shot stopping ability and everything.
But his stats for the league have not been great 6-7-5-5-6 in the league and 6-6-4 in the CL.

The 1m keeper has actually played his way out of the team and my second keeper valued at just 210k a 3 star (16) is way more consistent and looks like the new number one. His stats are 7-7-7-7-6 in the league and 6-7-7 in the CL and 7-7 in the cup! I realise that if a game is dominated the keeper may not be involved but the stats don't lie!

What is the done thing in this case sell the expensive keeper (which I won a mini bidding war to get 6 tokens) or wait until he hits form?

I have a striker who I brought from the youth team for 15 tokens early in the season. I did this so I would have a high value asset. I set about power training him. But he has not been as consistent or as explosive as I thought.

His stats are 7-6-6-8-6 in the league and 6-6 in the champions league. I now use him as an (impact sub if he is lucky) or against really weak opponents all out attack formations. The only advantage to him is that he is a fast trainer, so now I continue power train him until he has very low condition left and leave him on the bench to get fit again.

What do the rest of you do with these type of players. Cash out or keep and persevere in the hope that the player's form will improve?

I am reluctant to change formation to accommodate the youth striker permanently as the one I have settled on is working extremely well.:confused:

If you are unable to make formation changes that accommodate players and find that boosting morale does little for performance, train them to boost their quality and sell when they have enough value.

Sometimes, a player does not deliver and you have to manage your team accordingly.

Sometimes, guys perform better than their quality level or value will suggest. I keep a three-star striker because the guy scores and does well on a regular basis.

Your mileage may vary.

Also... can you share screenshots of his skills and statistics?

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Originally Posted by mmunger

If you are unable to make formation changes that accommodate players and find that boosting morale does little for performance, train them to boost their quality and sell when they have enough value.

Sometimes, a player does not deliver and you have to manage your team accordingly.

Sometimes, guys perform better than their quality level or value will suggest. I keep a three-star striker because the guy scores and does well on a regular basis.

Your mileage may vary.

Also... can you share screenshots of his skills and statistics?

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Here is the youth strikers attributes:Attachment 46031

Youth strikers form:Attachment 46032

High Priced Keeper attributes: Attachment 46033

High Priced Keeper form: Attachment 46034

Low priced Keeper attributes: Attachment 46035

Low Priced Keeper form: Attachment 46036

In summary youth player is only playing average. I plan to keep power training him and build up his defensive and physical stats. I think this may be the problem as he is an "unbalanced". I think I might get away with poor defensive stats but not poor physical and mental stats.

The Low priced keeper is performing better then the high priced keeper consistently!

Youth Striker Attributes see below:Attachment 46037
Youth Striker Form see below:Attachment 46038
High Priced Keeper Attributes see below:Attachment 46039
High Priced Keeper Form see below :Attachment 46040
Low Priced Keeper Attributes see below :Attachment 46042
High Priced Keeper Form see below:Attachment 46043

Basically this means that the youth striker is performing average at best. I am trying to power train him to get better physical and mental skills as well as attacking now. I think this may be the problem.

The low priced keeper is "keeping" the high priced keeper out of the team because of consistant performances

Keeper stas are often misleading because if you are winning games easily and not letting goals in then your keeper has nothing to do so will get a poor rating. What they are effectively doing is marshalling the defense so there is no danger. A keeper with a lower star rating may have to do more (and therefore get better stats) because the defense is weaker with him in the team.

Just bench the bad form player and use the good one until he stop producing good results (no 8 form or averaged below 7 in 5 games).

Put your high quality player in and tada~:cool:

High value does not come from performance. Your buying Q + Training rate.

Players get bad ratings because they are bad performers or because they are put in a position where they can't perform well. If an MC, DMC or GK is rarely involved and makes 1 mistake the ratings will hammer him - first question I ask is did my system (opponents system give him any opportunities) - if the answer is yes, bench him. If he's not that important to the team, either persevere and bench him or sell him - but first check if there are events that occurred that could have contributed to it such as injury and PK misses.

PS. my ST scored 2 PKs and missed 2 PKs in one game, got injured in the next and slumped - benched, subbed, cuddled then back to form but took about 11 games to get him back on form, 4x8 n 3x9 in last 7 games (mix of 7,8 & 9s before then).

The numbers 1st 7 days rated - 8.08, 2nd 7 - 7.92, 3rd - 7.10, 4th 8.08. PK misses were on Day 12, Injury Day 14 iirc

PS. Ofc it could just all be Voodoo - in my head ;)

don't keep players with small rating performance. buy other player...!!!

You never will see a team with full of players with 9-9-9-9-9 LOL...
Max. I had 2.... and a "sometimes" 3rd player alternating 9's with another player.

Brian Daboren 10 matches 4 goals 4 assistances is a good contribution to the team, thats what you have to see.

In the case of GK's is difficult to know if is good or not coz there are not rankings and so, just looking at the comments you can know if is worth or not... if saves fouls, 1vs1, corners... then, this is your keeper.

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Originally Posted by khris

You never will see a team with full of players with 9-9-9-9-9 LOL...
Max. I had 2.... and a "sometimes" 3rd player alternating 9's with another player.

Brian Daboren 10 matches 4 goals 4 assistances is a good contribution to the team, thats what you have to see.

In the case of GK's is difficult to know if is good or not coz there are not rankings and so, just looking at the comments you can know if is worth or not... if saves fouls, 1vs1, corners... then, this is your keeper.

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You do know. Thats what the ratings are there for.

You don't know the difference between doing nothing and doing equally good and bad to get an average rating but a bad rating is a bad performance. How bad is up to the Manager to guess/figure out.

One thing I don't like in your players is lack of balance. For instance, your striker has poor defensive skills. Improve that and he will play better off the ball, marking and forcing counterattacks. Right now, he may only play well with the ball. This can be a contributing factor. It is a shortcoming I have learned to address in my own team.

Also, improving his defensive skills will improve his heading. Surely useful for a striker who may score on headers ;)

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Example of what I mean in my previous message. Take a look at this young striker:

Skills:

Attachment 46283

As you can see, there isn't a huge gap between his offensive and defensive skills. He tends to score headers as live action describes his leaps to get the ball on corner kicks.

The result:

Attachment 46284

He was a three-star guy for most of the season, but he was a productive striker, as you can see. Plenty of league and Cup goals, and an 8 rating 50% of the time despite lack of quality in comparison with others. And he plays well against tougher opposition.

@mmunger, yeah find out what works best for your player its the same with other roles. One of my fullbacks seems to like attacking higher than the other but it could just all be in my head. ;)

Here's an alt Striker who's not interested in defending - I'll raise his Physical a bit more then, if he keeps performing I'll add 1 to each until something happens to make me change. Particularly for NordGems, if they perform I'll keep a screeny of 'distribution' which I can return to if necessary.
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some times you need to be patience with them...

Absolutely agree. Some players badly play for a period on joining new team. But they may finally become a well performing player for long period of time. Besides, if the team perform inconsistently, it is hard to notice the true form of the players.