I have 2 questions about training of Special Abilities,
1. Does SA Training add value to the player economically?
2. Does player's training rate decrease after SA Training?
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I have 2 questions about training of Special Abilities,
1. Does SA Training add value to the player economically?
2. Does player's training rate decrease after SA Training?
no to both
I am power training my second keeper because he is one point away from "shot stopping".
I am going to sell him and I am hoping that the special ability will attract more interested buyers.
It is a bit disappointing to learn that the special ability does not actually increase the value of the player.
Maybe Nordus should bring in a 5% price algorithm increase where a player has a special ability?
Other than FK for STs, which SAs worth training?
Corner specialist: you can definitely score goals thanks to a good corner kick
Aerial defender: the guy will make headed clearances
Defensive wall: helps to stop the free kick specialist
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I explain all the abilities and which players to put them on.
Short version: worth it??? not much
long version:
until my FK specialist scored over 80% from FKs everything was allright... or my 1v1 ST scored from face to face situations... or my aerial defender saved the day from corners or scored at corner situations... everything was allright...
i had 10 SA players in STARTIng line up at level 4...
starting line up was (playing 99% narrow diamond):
GK: 1v1
Winged defs and DMC: aerials
Central defs: wallers
MCs: FKs (dont get worthy cornerer)
AMC: Shadow striker -> the sad part i've never excepted efficient skill using from him but he was my long range bomber and he scored pretty much goal from far away!
ST: one was 1v1
about starting last week (or something) got troll results in league and end game cups... dominated my aerial defs by NON aerial much weaker ATTACKER... My FKs and 1v1 scorer and keeper failed too much... etc... lot of them was in good form so you cant argue with me "must had bad form" ...
i dont know really... Little bit confused right now... until now i was SA fan but one thing must be sure: dont get overexcited if you stumble upon a good SA player in transfer list!
If a player is 1 sp away from next star, his training efficiency decrease even if the sp is on hold. Will his training efficiency be also as low if the sp is added to SA?
In case a player own a 40 token worth SA, will the next training efficiency drop appearing 40sp earlier
also a thread about special abilities
http://forum.topeleven.com/news-anno...op-eleven.html
the real effect of SA have also been discussed a lot, is there a marginal positive change or is it just random.
all the equal comparisons I have made between non SA and SA can't conclude any significant difference between SA's and non SA's.
but one thing is sure, a player with a star more will be a better player :rolleyes:
Imo, make sure any player you train an SA on is at least half decent at the skill you want to use: a guy thats crap at FKs will be slightly better than crap with the SA. For other less specific ones they also need to be getting the opportunity to use the SA, if a winger isn't shooting from distance then Shadow Striker won't do anything because an SA only gives an effect when the event to trigger it occurs - no events means no effect - it will not, as I understand it, encourage him to shoot from distance.
I took a not very good CK taker (who sometimes took CKs) and added CK SA (and gave him sole responsibility). He was still a not very good CK taker and his overall ratings suffered. I'd imagine doing more of the stuff he didn't do well had an bigger negative impact. I removed him from CK duties and his ratings recovered (or rather were not negatively impacted).
I have another MC thats very good at CKs and would probably be better with the CK SA but as he only takes them from 1 side I don't consider it necessary.
Just because you have a fast trainer doesn't mean you should train an SA.
Don't try to polish a turd. ;)
PS. As far as I understand it the Nordgens with untrainable SAs are anomalies. A Striker with Aerial Defense will not get many opportunities to benefit from a skill that is triggered by heading in a defensive position - it won't break him though. Other ones can have a use if the get into a situation often enough to utilise it.
you don't need players with special abilities to win thw champion. it's not necessary..!!!!
Others have answered #2, for #1 I'll talk about PERCEPTION only...Quote:
Originally Posted by Laftan Anla
While SA Training doesn't add "value" to a player it definitely increases the price you can sell a player for. Same with position eligibility. Try selling a Striker with AMC eligibility - it's almost an automatic that there will be a bidding war. Certain SA Training is much more attractive than others too. Wall for defenders is much less attractive than aerial ability for example. Generally: Dribbler, Shadow Striker, One on One, One on One Stopper > Penalty Taker, Corner Taker, Penalty Stopper. It makes sense that PERCEPTION would translate this way based on how often those SA's are called upon in a game.
Same goes with wide position eligibility, i.e. for a base DL player, DL/DC is generally more attractive to buyers than DL/DML.
Spend one token to change the name, nationality and number of the player to a famous up and coming player that is universally known. That will also greatly increase the sales price without changing the "value" of the player.