Special Ability For DL/DC

For those who added a special ability on their DL/DC, which one gave better results, aerial defender or defensive wall?
A user has recommended choosing between the two special ability according to the height of the player, but a tall player has an advantage in both of them.

Take into consideration that I have not asked which is best to have between the two. What I have asked is which has worked best for a player having position DL/DC (initially intended to use as DL, but this may change).

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Originally Posted by Tactician

For those who added a special ability on their DL/DC, which one gave better results, aerial defender or defensive wall?
A user has recommended choosing between the two special ability according to the height of the player, but a tall player has an advantage in both of them.

Take into consideration that I have not asked which is best to have between the two. What I have asked is which has worked best for a player having position DL/DC (initially intended to use as DL, but this may change).

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If a SA should be chosen, I always chose Aerial for the higher player (if/hope that height matters)

A defensive wall does also mean low and mid, therefor I chose this for smaller players

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Originally Posted by Gert Funck

If a SA should be chosen, I always chose Aerial for the higher player (if/hope that height matters)

A defensive wall does also mean low and mid, therefor I chose this for smaller players

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sorry, but your logic is screwy. you want height for both SA, as short players make a bad wall....you just have to shoot over it.

at the end of the day, I dont think this game is that complicated to employ things like that.

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Originally Posted by Sully

sorry, but your logic is screwy. you want height for both SA, as short players make a bad wall....you just have to shoot over it.

at the end of the day, I dont think this game is that complicated to employ things like that.

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No, thats why I used if I use SA to sell players, because I really don't see any effect of them

and again, my point was, that a defensive wall is more than height, not that it doesn't matter

Only choose AD if the player seems actively involved in defensive headers.

My DL/DC with AD seemed good with headers before the SA and seems good with headers with it.

Is he better with the SA than he was without? Was it worth the sp?
When I see a player stat count on Defensive Headers I'll tell you. ;)

He used to play DC but now is more used as DL.

PS. I've not tried DW, I prefer to feed them up on pies.

Football logic and game's logic (basis to football) is that you must have (at least) one tall DC, with aerial skill, to confront C-K (of course & the height of the player, in the game is a cosmetic).
Also for DR & DL who are playing in the wings of defense and confront AML & AMR, who have talent or the sa of sudden striker/long sudden shot, DW seems more useful.
I don't if this work that way but the problem is that the comments aren't helping to have any conclusion.
A comment like "but {your DC} with his aerial ability sending the ball away" , or something like this :rolleyes: should be working as an indicator that in this action, Aerial Domination sa was activated but it looks like random.

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Originally Posted by nikolgiorgos

Football logic and game's logic (basis to football) is that you must have (at least) one tall DC, with aerial skill, to confront C-K (of course & the height of the player, in the game is a cosmetic).
Also for DR & DL who are playing in the wings of defense and confront AML & AMR, who have talent or the sa of sudden striker/long sudden shot, DW seems more useful.
I don't if this work that way but the problem is that the comments aren't helping to have any conclusion.
A comment like "but {your DC} with his aerial ability sending the ball away" , or something like this :rolleyes: should be working as an indicator that in this action, Aerial Domination sa was activated but it looks like random.

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I have one player that was heading away corners (noticed as comments) in his first season when he did not have any special ability. I trained him for the aerial defender special ability in his second season. He did not appear on the comments heading away corners as he was during his first game without the special ability; but, my team conceded very little from corners. So, it can be said that the special ability did work but it did not show up in the comments.

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Originally Posted by Gert Funck

(if/hope that height matters)

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Hope is the last thing we loose lol

Again, more detailed statistics (for instance, tackles made, % tackle success, interceptions, blocked shots, clearances) would have been more helpful.

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Originally Posted by nikolgiorgos

Football logic and game's logic (basis to football) is that you must have (at least) one tall DC, with aerial skill, to confront C-K (of course & the height of the player, in the game is a cosmetic).
Also for DR & DL who are playing in the wings of defense and confront AML & AMR, who have talent or the sa of sudden striker/long sudden shot, DW seems more useful.
I don't if this work that way but the problem is that the comments aren't helping to have any conclusion.
A comment like "but {your DC} with his aerial ability sending the ball away" , or something like this :rolleyes: should be working as an indicator that in this action, Aerial Domination sa was activated but it looks like random.

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AD comment is just a gimmicky way of saying it was a defensive header its just like dribbling doesn't mean that Dribbler SA was used.

I'll say it again, I too would like an indicator in Commentary of an action that triggered an SA. So we could have "dribbles (Dr)", "runs (Dr)", "dribbles", "saves (1on1 D)" etc etc etc (ofc these are just examples not a suggested end product)

honestly i think you are over thinking it. I'm not sure the game even takes into account the recorded hieght on the player card. As i showed you in my formation post, my GK is VERY VERY short, in the time that i've had him he is 40-3 with some ties... but he is 5'9''.... my goalie is the size of messi but plays, so far, like (insert whoever you think is a top goalie)

This is your aerial defender... oooooooooooooh wait :eek::eek::eek:

seen couple of minutes ago in nego list :D

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Originally Posted by Gert Funck

If a SA should be chosen, I always chose Aerial for the higher player (if/hope that height matters)

A defensive wall does also mean low and mid, therefor I chose this for smaller players

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If I choose to add a SA, its always AD for my tall defensive players as well. Well, they're all tall, including my Defense Walls (scouts) since I don't have a single defender under 190 height on my roster. I don't know if it matters, but results have been pretty good the last several seasons.

Yeah as long as you have 1 of each on the pitch it doesn't really matter who has it. Only takes one player to intervene to make a difference. I do favour taller players.