Transfers' bids

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09-15-2015
Δημητρης Τρολλερ

Transfers' bids

So you bid one token to take part at the "auction" of a player and you bid one more each time you decide to proceed to the next round to make this player part of your team
Everything good so far, isn't it?
So you compete with another guy who wants this player as well and ending up bidding for instance 10 tokens to realise the other guy has more tokens to spend than you do. He gets the player you get air and whoops,you just lost ten tokens with nothing in return
So to I reached the point, I find it ridiculous that you lose the tokens even if you lose the auction,what's the point of that it is not even realistic.
In real life if a tim makes a bid for a player they are not gonna pay anything unless the player and his team accept any offer or just the player if he is free
The way the transfers work will only find people addicted to the game and pay with real money for tokens or people who are just wealthy to be ok with it
I am really enjoying the game but the thing with the transfers really disturbs me for a team which is new and has spent the 40 starting tokens it is very hard to make a good signing even if you wait a week or so to get some tomens you can't be sure that you will successfuly complete a transfer
You could get back your tokens if you couldn't sign a player or get back 50% of them or something
What's your opinion about this
09-16-2015
Killroy

The thing about biddings are the tension wether you get the player or not. You have to have the feeling of loosing something and tokens are precious. You have to be carefull with them. If you wouldn't loose your tokens during a bidding all bidding wars would be like 50 rounds long or so. That would make it ridiculous. Right now you have to plan your strategy and set targets (max 10 tokens for example).

And of course it is the best way for T11 to make money. There is no denying that but I wouldn't want to see it any other way. Just played a soccer manager where you wouldn't loose your money for a transfer and the game was dull and boring to me.
09-16-2015
Kylos

Well said Killroy, when it comes to bidding, you have to be very cautious. If you have the tokens to play around with then be my guest. If u on a tight budget then do as Killroy said, have a limit even though you really need a player in a specific position, dont let that be your downfall. I was heavy headed before and went to 20+ rounds of bidding until I realized that its pointless bidding against token buyers! Setting a limit is the way to go and sometimes gets you the players...
09-16-2015
Bunzo

If the loser of an auction was to get his tokens back then it would only be fair for the winner to be refunded his tokens ?
So what would be the point of an auction.
11-15-2015
footietootie

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kylos

Well said Killroy, when it comes to bidding, you have to be very cautious. If you have the tokens to play around with then be my guest. If u on a tight budget then do as Killroy said, have a limit even though you really need a player in a specific position, dont let that be your downfall. I was heavy headed before and went to 20+ rounds of bidding until I realized that its pointless bidding against token buyers! Setting a limit is the way to go and sometimes gets you the players...

Well i would say sometimes you might not be bidding against token buyers but '' noobs '' who spend their entire tokens and budget on one single player. Happened to me.
11-15-2015
HoofDaddy

don't buy players day 1 or day 3 and you won't have these problems
11-15-2015
Gert Funck

Always set your limit before entering the first bid :o
11-15-2015
Mark Bayliss Jespersen

Quote:

Originally Posted by HoofDaddy

don't buy players day 1 or day 3 and you won't have these problems

I don't know if it still is like this, but on day 1 when the new season is beginning, there used to be some bad ass regens avaiable. Got a couple of fast trainers today.

Of course, don't go into a bidding war with someone, but you can make some really sweet deals if you're lucky.
11-15-2015
HoofDaddy

Yeah sometimes on new season day there are good nordgens none at my league level today tho.

Bought a guy yesterday for 25.3M, sold today for 29.7. I could buy a lvl 4 club with the profit from 1T lol.
11-15-2015
Gert Funck

Quote:

Originally Posted by HoofDaddy

Yeah sometimes on new season day there are good nordgens none at my league level today tho.

Bought a guy yesterday for 25.3M, sold today for 29.7. I could buy a lvl 4 club with the profit from 1T lol.

I play at two different level. AT the one there was several, and the other none :rolleyes:
11-15-2015
footietootie

One more important thing - if day one falls on a weekend, its more likely that more players are active to bidding. Last season i managed to buy 2 fast trainers on day one without any challenge. This season day one falls on a sunday for me, there were multiple bidding wars around.
11-15-2015
Staggy Stagg

But day 1 is always on a sunday.
11-15-2015
Gert Funck

Quote:

Originally Posted by Staggy Stagg

But day 1 is always on a sunday.

Thought the exact same thing ;)
11-15-2015
footietootie

HAHAHA WHOOPS. I didnt realise that. Somehow i thought that people in different servers have different timelines. Well anyway back to my point about getting lucky with transfers. Its really luck when people are active.... kekeke what a big blunder from me
11-15-2015
nikolgiorgos

I agree with other mates here.
If a manager who's participating in an auction get's his T back, there would be a serious madness, non controlling and trolling situations.
Anyway, learning to buy players with lesser sources is a part of the game too.
11-15-2015
Spursman

Ok, so you can loose tokens on the auction, but why do Nordeus have to have tokens for a player if a friend wants to sell one to you? If the player has 5 stars the costs is already 10 tokens to Nordeus. This is ridiculous if you ask me.
11-15-2015
nikolgiorgos

because if everybody could buy from other friends without T, there wouldn't be any profit for nordeus
- but yes, I agree, the "tax" for negotiations is too high.
11-15-2015
Sakura

Yeah I agree, you shouldn't get any tokens back, you commit to bidding for that player, nobody makes you, just make sure you don't get drawn in, decide how many tokens you are going to bid before it enters round 1 and stick to it.
11-16-2015
Amane Ito

You are offered opportunities, and make your own decisions.

As you are not forced to bid in any way, losing a lot of tokens but didn't get a player isn't anything but your bad decision.
Half of the game is about making good deals with a limited budget.

Offering 3~5 tokens (usually costing 12~20 tokens) to get a near 6* from negotiation may be a bit expansive for what you get, but it doesn't run the risk of losing biddings in 10 rounds over.

Of course you can get lucky and pickup nice deals with 1T, but to do that it's likely that you need to watch the market all day... which itself is a cost to be paid.
11-16-2015
Arion

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bunzo

If the loser of an auction was to get his tokens back then it would only be fair for the winner to be refunded his tokens ?
So what would be the point of an auction.

That way bidding will go till round 99, since the guys know that they lose nothing, but can win a Phyrric victory. But maybe after bidding, for every 3rd round they progress they get a token back. There is loss, but only 67% of the previous.
11-16-2015
Bunzo

And should the winning bidder get a refund of tokens as well? only fair ;)
11-16-2015
Arion

Quote:

Originally Posted by Δημητρης Τρολλερ

So you bid one token to take part at the "auction" of a player and you bid one more each time you decide to proceed to the next round to make this player part of your team
Everything good so far, isn't it?
So you compete with another guy who wants this player as well and ending up bidding for instance 10 tokens to realise the other guy has more tokens to spend than you do. He gets the player you get air and whoops,you just lost ten tokens with nothing in return
So to I reached the point, I find it ridiculous that you lose the tokens even if you lose the auction,what's the point of that it is not even realistic.
In real life if a tim makes a bid for a player they are not gonna pay anything unless the player and his team accept any offer or just the player if he is free
The way the transfers work will only find people addicted to the game and pay with real money for tokens or people who are just wealthy to be ok with it
I am really enjoying the game but the thing with the transfers really disturbs me for a team which is new and has spent the 40 starting tokens it is very hard to make a good signing even if you wait a week or so to get some tomens you can't be sure that you will successfuly complete a transfer
You could get back your tokens if you couldn't sign a player or get back 50% of them or something
What's your opinion about this

Buy a 20 year old on day 28. Got 2 young defenders. And a GK and a multirole defender. All for a token each.
After that I will do most of my shopping on day 28, since tokens are precious to me.

Or buy a scout or through negotiations, preferably the latter. For 50T get a 5* 19y.o, but shell out a lot of money. Or for 19T more but a hell lot of less money buy a 22y.o. scout. Have just 8T, so none of the above ;)

But I still look for Nordgens "early" (9am in India) in the morning on Day 1. Last season got a pretty good and young ST for 3T.
11-16-2015
Arion

No. They got what they want. Why should I 'gift' them tokens?
11-16-2015
Sully

Quote:

Originally Posted by Δημητρης Τρολλερ

So you bid one token to take part at the "auction" of a player and you bid one more each time you decide to proceed to the next round to make this player part of your team
Everything good so far, isn't it?
So you compete with another guy who wants this player as well and ending up bidding for instance 10 tokens to realise the other guy has more tokens to spend than you do. He gets the player you get air and whoops,you just lost ten tokens with nothing in return
So to I reached the point, I find it ridiculous that you lose the tokens even if you lose the auction,what's the point of that it is not even realistic.
In real life if a tim makes a bid for a player they are not gonna pay anything unless the player and his team accept any offer or just the player if he is free
The way the transfers work will only find people addicted to the game and pay with real money for tokens or people who are just wealthy to be ok with it
I am really enjoying the game but the thing with the transfers really disturbs me for a team which is new and has spent the 40 starting tokens it is very hard to make a good signing even if you wait a week or so to get some tomens you can't be sure that you will successfuly complete a transfer
You could get back your tokens if you couldn't sign a player or get back 50% of them or something
What's your opinion about this

Please remember this is a game, not real life. As this is a game, the company that created it needs to make money, like Candy Crush, so they implemented this bidding process with the intent to make a crapload of money.

It is not supposed to be fair, it is there to make you waste tokens and buy more.

Look, if you time your purchases right and scout the right players, you can easily get a majority of players for one or two tokens. I try to keep 100 tokens on each of my 5 accounts at all times but there comes a time where you get into a bidding fight and spend 40-49 tokens and the odd time come up empty.

I never bet more than 49 as I might as well have put the tokens towards a scout. If someone wants to outbid me and go 50, then thats a waste of tokens and money for him and a waste of tokens for me. But that is a rarity for me now that I understand the process and market better.

10 tokens seems to be the limit for many people and I dont go for a player without having at least 30 tokens ready to burn. You see, I normally keep players for 5-10 years as I tank seasons and build them up. That saves me a crapload of tokens and money and only wastes time on my part, which is part and parcel.

I dont buy tokens, ever, so tanking is the way to win while saving tokens and money.