Worst start in the league despite having the best avarage quality squad.

Hi guys.

I'm new on this forum, and first I would love to say hi to everybody.This is only my 5th season in Top eleven.I managed to win the legue title in last 4 seasons and also won 1 champions league trophy.
At the start of this season I strengthened my team very much to do well in all 3 compititions.I bought 5 star players and trained them and now I have six 6 star players along with many 5 star players.My team is doing fine in the cup and cl but having the worst possible start in the league.In my last 5 league games my team won only 1 match & lost or drew the rest.The funny thing is I'm losing & drawing against teams with much lower quality.Where my quality is 41.8 and I'm losing against 28.6 quality teams.I always follow the counter formation table which served me well last 4 seasons but this season nothing seems to work thus far.And I'm always present in matchdays where opposing managers are not..So why my team with quality players doing so bad in the league?And what should I do?

Hi, welcome to the forum.
I'd suggest you to check form of your players. That is main reason why teams perform bad. When their form is good, then team can perform good and then counter formation has effect.
Remember that it doesn't matter how high quallity your player has, if his form is 5-6 (or worse), he is useless!
Could you post screenshot of your squad, their form and other stats?

Thanks for youur reply & suggestion.I've been trying for hours to upload the screenshot from my pc but for some reason it wasn't uploading.Attachment 56081

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Feel free to suggest. :)

Ok. What tactics you use? Do you change tactics when you change formation, if yes, then how?
Your players form is good (besides last match or 2) so it shouldn't be problem. Maybe something else is.

Bad start doesn't always mean that season would be bad.
This is example, last seson of mine team which was inactive in 1st week (I didn't open TE at all), then I reactivated it and managed to climb on the table up to 2nd place :)
http://forum.topeleven.com/attachmen...s33d26-l17.jpg

My choice of fomations most of the times are 4-5-1V/3-5-2V/4-3-2-1 I play with attacking mentality,passing down both flanks with mixed passing.low pressing,no counter & no offside trap,zonal marking.I put red arrows on my aml/amr all the time and also red arrows on dl/dr..But I change tactics a lot.Like when my opponant has good cover in flanks with no dmc i go through the middle with 4-1-2-1-2ND with red arrow on amc & STs and of course short passing.So yes I change formation & tactics a lot.When my opponant has no cover on flanks i usually go down the flanks & when he has little cover in center I opt to go through the middle..The common thing off all is I use attacking mentality almost all of the time & I only counter when opponat is tough.Against low quality teams I usually press high.

I usually score a lot of goals with these tactics.But this season with new signings I'm not scoring too much & also conceding goals a lot.Generally I don't concede that much.

With the 4-5-1 v I stick with normal, mixed, high pressing & short passing & man to man …if things go slow I´ll up it to attacking
My 2nd team is Lv 5 & Q 45 … & hash´t lost in a long time ;)

Nice.But I play short passing when I go through the middle and mixed when going down the flanks.And when pressing high I turn on offside trap.But nothing's going right at the start of this season.Hope I'll do better in later stages.

I set up my formation and tactics to counter opponent too. Usually my problems are based on form, not on tactics or formation. That means my teams mostly have more BP than opponent.
I'm not sure what is main problem in your team, but I'd suggest you few things:
Your formations:
451V is good all around formation, weak on 43n3
3n52V is useful against formations without flanks in mildfield (like narrow diamond)
Your tactics:
Use red arrows on DL and DR if opponent has no (A)ML/R. You don't need to use them on AML/R, they are offensive players by default so arrows won't make some additional effect.
Focus passing through wings when opponent has dense mildfield (and usually 2 fullbacks, no wide mildfielders)
Focus passing through middle when oppo has 1-2 central mildfielders (AMC/MC/DMC), otherwise use mixed.
Use long passing against strong opponents which have 5 mildfielders, short against weak teams.
Use high pressing against defensive formations (like 541), low against balanced or offensive formations (442, 343, 352)
Use mostly zonal marking, man ot man against weak teams

Few other tips:
you don't need to combine through middle passing if you already use narrow formation which is by default middle-based.
Check stats during the match, for eg. if passing is under 80%, change passing settings (lenght)....

Thank you very much for taking time and giving me these great tactical suggestions.These suggestions will surely prove to be invaluable for my team. :)

try 4-5-1V, defense with counter, even if your oppo is weaker and you have ball possession.
You maybe be surprised.
Also give lv1/min bonus maybe to see some reaction.

I suggest to you 4-4-2, play defensive mixed zonal own half normal tackling if opponent is weaker if opponent stronger hard but watch the faults, arrows red on the flanks and blue on both mcs, if works leave like that until you feel the team is playing well then start to go forward normal and attack, with attack play short pass and if opponent weaker turn on offiside trap, defensive use counter on. Against ND use 3-5-2v, 4-4-2 not always work against it.

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I play short passing when I go through the middle and mixed when going down the flanks.And when pressing high I turn on offside trap.But nothing's going right at the start of this season.Hope I'll do better in later stages.

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I generally don't go through the middle, I mostly play 4-2N-2W-2 or 5-2N-2W-1. If he has just one player in central area(MC and DMC) then play 4-3N-2W-1, through the middle. Never lost.
If only one player in the flanks then play 4-2-2-2 or other formations with wingbacks. With this strategy I have won all 6 league games so far.
Form is king. Even my 1* player performs pretty good because of my team's overall good form. I will use win bonus for the first time in league tommorrow, for the top of the table clash (to solidify my position).
One advice, as a last straw— if you don't find yourself in top 4 (just promoting is worse than not promoting to me–I want the CL spot which I always get...) then tank. Play illegal formations, player out of positions, etc. Then start over the next season.
Try to advance the first round of cup. If you've done that, then your team should be in-form and boosting in morale.

Best of luck!

Hi,

Much said over the tactics I have one more thought on this, Team chemistry, based on an experience I had two seasons ago. Was in the 5th season in a league with many active managers and teams with good records. My team was performing exceptionally well going undefeated till the mid part of the season, taking a lead of 9 points. I was playing 3 star players too who had been with the team for 4 or 5 seasons. Thought that if I had more strong players, probably I would sail through the season and win it. I bought in 5 star players and benched my lesser rated players. The result, my team went into slump from undefeated streak to the worst losing streak I had. Lost seven games in a row, regardless the strength of the opponent. Got knocked out of CL and cup in back to back matches and reached mid table from top. It never got back the old form although it stabilized and somehow managed some draws and wins only to lose the league on goal difference. I am not sure if team chemistry is a thing in TE, but I have always felt so especially on bringing in new players. May be your team will start performing better soon. Good luck.

Thanks.I think I'm facing the same problem.Buying new 5 star players & selling the in form 4 star players was a bad decisions which I made.

Based on your form of the players of the first page there is not much to complain about. Lots of 7-8-9's. The game just trolls your from time to time. I had a team which was in the lead for 13 points and then my performance dropped from average 7,9 to 6,1 loosing all games and ending up third that season. The drop in form was for 6 of my players (MC/wingers/Str).

All you can do is try stuff around untill you find the right form. Switch your mc's around. Switch your strikers around. Do it during the match to see if they improve on the other side of the field. It helps sometimes. I use the same style as you and it helped me.

My league games are really draining me this season. My team should be in the top 5 based on quality of the team, but instead i'm in 9th place. My forms are all good, but the team just isn't producing goals. I'm lucky if I walk away with a single goal every match.

85% of the time there are no managers watching for the other side.

I've been reading everyone's suggestions and tips, but nothing is working.

@Son of Pitches If you have not tried counter formations, may suggest to give it a try and may be with defensive mentality. Works for me. Have had seasons where ST's were poor and MC's chipping in with odd goals but still win by not conceding.

Same goes to my Tuan DM FC (level 25 team) this season...keke...
Dont know what to say...Moral/bonus whatever always max...

Im doing fine in CL n CUP so far but league..hic...no explanation...

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Just for some comparison between the 1st (my fren also) n my team...hahaha..
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