Has top eleven gotten more difficult?

I am currently on my second season since returning to Top Eleven for after two years, and I've noticed that you get much more difficult opponents now-a-days in the league, and almost all of them are active managers and the quality of the teams don't differ much between another. It also seems that there isn't many teams where you can get "breathing space" from, as in completely inactive teams and such where you can enjoy a dominating match.

How have you guys been able to cope with these changes and any suggestions on being able to build up a team which can go up against all the opponents all season long?

Yes, it's more difficult. It gets to a point where the team in last position has a full 5* squad. I'm level 25, I was winning leagues with ease at your level.

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Originally Posted by El Pistolero

Yes, it's more difficult. It gets to a point where the team in last position has a full 5* squad. I'm level 25, I was winning leagues with ease at your level.

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I'm currently level 26. :P

LOL

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Originally Posted by Arijanit

I'm currently level 26. :P

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Originally Posted by Arijanit

I'm currently level 26. :P

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Yeah I got relegated

LOL just kidding, thought you wrote you are new haha. My mistake.

Oh yeah...

I am not that new but newer for sure. Still trying to learn how to smell games ...

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Originally Posted by El Pistolero

Yeah I got relegated

LOL just kidding, thought you wrote you are new haha. My mistake.

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TE is silly.
League is harder than Champions League, although CL used to be stronger. There are no weak teams anymore, all teams have similar or equall average quallity. We did request to increase difficulty of league, but not to get league like this. That is also reason why CL quallity dropped. Teams which have 2-3-4 stars can win league of same quallity and quallify to CL. That is why in group phase of CL you can see 2* teams which wasn't case in past. This TE CL is like if somene removed coefficients from real CL and made champions of all leagues equall in CL draws. (eg. English PL winner = Scottish PL winner = League of Ireland PD winner)
To be honest, I wouldn't like to play neither league of 8-10 inactive and 4-6 active teams too (as it was in past). Nor 1st neither this systems are perfect. Now for me this is confusing concept where we have equall chances to win league or cup with 2, 3, 4 or 5* teams because we always get equally strong opponents. Why then to buy stronger players?
Cup doesn't make sense, because both cup and league are based on average quallity. Cup is the hardest competition, but doesn't offer highest financial rewards, so it isn't cost-effective.

Because the draws will put you up against teams of equalability, it is now pointless building a stronger team at the end of the season when the transfer market is quiet, as we used to do in the old days. Now it is best to check your league draw and buy from day3. I currently have 1 level39 team that is 3* in a 3* league. If I get promoted I will be 2* in a 2* league and then on day3 I hope to buy enough players to become a 5* team in a 2* league and just hopethat all the other managers don' do the same.

Now league is so much more difficult than the champions league. I love the way we played before (some months ago), when we could build a strong team steps by steps. That's the real football.

Not only the leagues are much more difficult but, in my case at least, that's where you seem to get most of troll results.
Hardly happens in CL but in league... I go from 4 or 5-0 victory against the best rated team to 0-1 loss to the second last, half abandoned...
It seems there are no easy game anymore where you could use your bench and rest your best players.

My case is not like that...
CL i got draw to a very very difficult group from Day 1..8*/7*and 6* teams..mines only 5*.. But luckily I managed to escape with 2nd place and now at quarter final ..when at league, I think i can clinch the championship early about 4-5 rounds even at high level the team quality is about the same...we dont have any weak team in our championship...

Like this..see from our table...
https://scontent-kul1-1.xx.fbcdn.net...c8&oe=56DCF9E2

And Quality of the 3 Bottom teams

I've been a victim to a lot of troll results myself, and I really noticed that the team's performance isn't the same as before, it's never consistent, my current starting line up is experienced with one another, with everyone playing at least 100 matches and yet it seems that they can never be a consistent team with one or at highest two formations, yet you have to constantly try to counter formations by always using other ones, and this rarely helps either. I think they need to fix this problem with the league.

Also I noticed that some people field lower rated players at the end of the season in order to get into a league with teams of lower quality, does this really work?

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Originally Posted by Arijanit

Also I noticed that some people field lower rated players at the end of the season in order to get into a league with teams of lower quality, does this really work?

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No, it doesn't matter which players you field, it's the quality of the top 14 rated players in the squad that counts - hence some managers sell some of their best players at the end of the season to get a supposedly more favourable draw in the Cup at the beginning of the next.

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Also I noticed that some people field lower rated players at the end of the season in order to get into a league with teams of lower quality, does this really work?

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no, this is working only for the cup.
About league, there are also other factors.
Still investigating ...

Indeed it is getting more difficult!

My first eleven is always 6*, no team in my league is near my strength (thanks to power training).
Unfortunately, i'm struggling!! My strikers (both 7*) are firing blanks. Though i'm now joint first, i'm expecting to cruise since i'm way way better than the rest.

It definitely is getting more difficult since the Live Match animation was introduce. That's when i noticed the difference.

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Originally Posted by naimcyk

Indeed it is getting more difficult!

My first eleven is always 6*, no team in my league is near my strength (thanks to power training).
Unfortunately, i'm struggling!! My strikers (both 7*) are firing blanks. Though i'm now joint first, i'm expecting to cruise since i'm way way better than the rest.

It definitely is getting more difficult since the Live Match animation was introduce. That's when i noticed the difference.

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SO true, my starting lineup is way stronger than most of my league opponents and Im continuously getting crappy results. I mean I put the time and effort to put together a strong team (Not mainly quality but also form) if a players form gets a 6 or lower, I sell.. Mostly getting these annoying draws and sometimes late minute defeats. My strikers are (6* & 7*) are not performing as expected, my wingers which are 5* are getting the goals and assists.

The new league draw system has ruined this game, as it punishes those that put time and effort into the game.

Its well been acknowledged that the Cup is a complete joke. Anyone who has a well maintained team will NEVER come close to winning it unless they are on the top of their server because they get paired with teams that are several levels above them. Im on level 36 now, won 31/32 league titles and 20+ Champions Leagues, yet not won the Cup since level 4 or 5 - because each season I am playing teams 4/5/6 levels better than me. Its simply a pointless set of games.

The league, when it was set up as a random draw was good. You got 2/3 good teams, had a chance to be competitive and the stupid game engine that blights this game didn't have as much sway on the end results come the end of the season. Now, every season I am paired with teams of similar quality in my league - and it often feels like the result of each game is chosen on a whim by the game engine and its irrelevant what you do as a manager as you can't influence the game.

Its a sad way for the game to go, but it feels like the recent changes to the league structure have completely destroyed the game and taken any enjoyment out of it. The managers that spend time on this game (and those that are sad enough to spend money on it) are simply being insulted by the games developers by having the game made harder for them, whilst not getting any extra additional benefit for the effort/time they have put in.

Quite simply, this game allows users to simply coast through the leagues, finishing around 5/6/7th each season in mid ranged leagues with little effort. Those coasting through will get promoted each season, whilst those that actively want to win leagues and play the game right are pushed into harder groups of leagues, meaning some get pushed away from promotion as teams battle to get past the line. It could be argued that Nordeus are trying to cash in on the active managers with the best squads by trying to force them to improve them even more - but the bottom line is this GREED has taken the heart out of the game.

The bottom line is that the game engine itself is still ridiculously set up. Tactics don't work, having the best players doesn't work, watching games doesn't work, having fully fit players doesn't work etc.. At times the game just trolls for the sake of it, regardless of what you do. The game time scheduling is a joke, meaning that often when you have two games in a day they are bang on 3 hours apart, rather than one in the morning, one in the evening, to help keep players fit. The Cup is a pointless competition to anyone who actually plays the game properly - annoying the core of their target audience - and the league changes are making it that the league is going the same way too.

The enjoyment is sadly going for these reasons. What is annoying is that I am not the only person to point out these flaws. They are quite clearly visible to anyone who plays this game for more than 5 mins a day. It makes you wonder what exactly Nordeus and the developers are doing, as they are simply not listening to the feedback given by THOSE THAT PLAY THE GAME.

Instead they carry on as things are and bring in changes that no one wanted. No one wanted Mourinio in the game. No one wanted Bigglesworth in the game. No one wanted more expensive scout players. No one cares about new shirts that don't change game play, but we keep getting them etc...

People have complained about the league set up, the lack of sense in tactics, the cup being bad, about scout players being too OLD and too expensive, about connection issues, about customer support issues etc.. AND NOTHING HAS BEEN DONE.

This game has the potential to be the best free football management game (with additional add on payable content/extras) on the Internet, but sadly Nordeus simply don't care about their players and customers, all it cares about is making as much money as possible, without actually fixing what is killing the game and turning players away. Two years ago I had loads of friends playing this game. Now I think I am down to myself and one other that play it daily. That says it all - there is no long term happiness for 99% of players, because the flaws in this game make it unplayable for a long period of time.

Punishing those that play the game every day by putting them in harder leagues and cup draws is a pathetic and insulting thing for Nordeus to do.

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Originally Posted by naimcyk

Indeed it is getting more difficult!

My first eleven is always 6*, no team in my league is near my strength (thanks to power training).
Unfortunately, i'm struggling!! My strikers (both 7*) are firing blanks. Though i'm now joint first, i'm expecting to cruise since i'm way way better than the rest.

It definitely is getting more difficult since the Live Match animation was introduce. That's when i noticed the difference.

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I'll give you a tip, I don't know if it really works but I prefer to play on my PC rather than from my phone, the results are much better in my opinion. When I play from my phone I feel that the live animation thing is cheating me big time.

It is very interesting...

Because most of time if you see something in animation, 70% of chance, something will happen. For example if you see a comment says something or good to you, no worry at all; but if you see you are doing attacks in animation, please be ready because it might give you a surprise :-)

The animation is fun but it is a bit cheating from my opinion, so I agree with you.

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Originally Posted by Arijanit

I'll give you a tip, I don't know if it really works but I prefer to play on my PC rather than from my phone, the results are much better in my opinion. When I play from my phone I feel that the live animation thing is cheating me big time.

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Originally Posted by Arijanit

I'll give you a tip, I don't know if it really works but I prefer to play on my PC rather than from my phone, the results are much better in my opinion. When I play from my phone I feel that the live animation thing is cheating me big time.

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yup and i just lost again to a team 5quality points lower than me despite me having more possession, more shots on goal, more shots on target, full morale, full fitness, and with me watching the game (opponent had no supporters). Result: 0-2 loss at home. This sucks.

Maybe i should try switching off the live animation.

For the first time in 10 season, i've lost 4 games straight while dominating the game.

I don't use the live animation for that very reason above.


KFC Loella. Level 25
14 League Titles
3 Champions Leagues
1 Cup